[kj] Youth

Tim Bucknall tim.bucknall at btinternet.com
Tue Jun 28 10:56:02 EDT 2005


should have read "in tune" when comparing raven's playing to youth's post 92
playing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Youth


> i think the reason you can hardly hear raven is more down to the mixing
that
> his actual playing,
> the mixing on his first prong album, makes me want to trash the speakers
>
> i agree that youth was better than good on the first 3 albums, he was
> extraordinary,
>
> as for the Bass on KJ 03 the ones i can actually really hear is "House
that
> pain built" which is obviously raven and implant which is apparently
Geordie
> according to the people that know this stuff
> and apparently some of it is programmed,
> It's so brilliant Having Raven back, because it basically means that they
> can play anything they want live, any songs from any period, can be
> performed tightly and tune
>
> i'll prob be on the chat for a bit if anyone else is bored, if i vanish
its
> because i've being forced to talk to my relatives :-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "melinda grant" <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [kj] Youth
>
>
> > youth was a better more choppy--melodic and even funky twang bass player
> > than raven--u can hear his lv of and 4 the bass in any early works--just
> > compare the difference to raven---half the time,i can hardly hear ravens
> > bass--thats now bland it is,n yes youth did write those bass lines --his
> > bass lines in the early days--of course he  n  gordie would improvise
> > ect--chuk idears bak n 4th,but youth knew his stuff,he was no slakker-n
> > gordie knows his stuff,they complimented each other beautifully n
> > intensly---as 4 k.j.o3 the bass is pritty heavy on that,n really rather
> > good,at last after all these yrs,raven is catching up with youth,but its
> > taken bloody yrs,n in the end,youth is the better of the 2.
> >
> > mel ldn uk.    ps get youth bak full time jaz,u know it makes sense.
> >
> > >From: bluce ree <bluceree2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Subject: [kj] Youth
> > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:39:19 +0100 (BST)
> > >
> > >This has probably been discussed before but anyway...
> > >
> > >Did Youth actually write the basslines on KJ, WTF and
> > >revs?  Things like Exit, Empire Song and Chop Chop
> > >have such brilliant basslines that manage to be subtle
> > >but amazing.  It compliments the guitar work rather
> > >than attempting to double it.
> > >
> > >It makes you wonder if Geordie showed him what to
> > >play.  Especially when you consider how rubbish he was
> > >on Pand on Democ (as the big shot producer I'm sure he
> > >wouldnt let Geordie tell him what to play that time).
> > >
> > >For me KJ have never matched those early albums and I
> > >think the bassplaying is a major reason.  Raven is
> > >great but tends to go with the obvious bassline.
> > >
> > >Thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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