[kj] Youth

[Tim Bucknall]

i think the reason you can hardly hear raven is more down to the mixing that
his actual playing,
the mixing on his first prong album, makes me want to trash the speakers

i agree that youth was better than good on the first 3 albums, he was
extraordinary,

as for the Bass on KJ 03 the ones i can actually really hear is "House that
pain built" which is obviously raven and implant which is apparently Geordie
according to the people that know this stuff
and apparently some of it is programmed,
It's so brilliant Having Raven back, because it basically means that they
can play anything they want live, any songs from any period, can be
performed tightly and tune

i'll prob be on the chat for a bit if anyone else is bored, if i vanish its
because i've being forced to talk to my relatives :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "melinda grant" <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] Youth


> youth was a better more choppy--melodic and even funky twang bass player
> than raven--u can hear his lv of and 4 the bass in any early works--just
> compare the difference to raven---half the time,i can hardly hear ravens
> bass--thats now bland it is,n yes youth did write those bass lines --his
> bass lines in the early days--of course he  n  gordie would improvise
> ect--chuk idears bak n 4th,but youth knew his stuff,he was no slakker-n
> gordie knows his stuff,they complimented each other beautifully n
> intensly---as 4 k.j.o3 the bass is pritty heavy on that,n really rather
> good,at last after all these yrs,raven is catching up with youth,but its
> taken bloody yrs,n in the end,youth is the better of the 2.
>
> mel ldn uk.    ps get youth bak full time jaz,u know it makes sense.
>
> >From: bluce ree <bluceree2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: [kj] Youth
> >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:39:19 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >This has probably been discussed before but anyway...
> >
> >Did Youth actually write the basslines on KJ, WTF and
> >revs?  Things like Exit, Empire Song and Chop Chop
> >have such brilliant basslines that manage to be subtle
> >but amazing.  It compliments the guitar work rather
> >than attempting to double it.
> >
> >It makes you wonder if Geordie showed him what to
> >play.  Especially when you consider how rubbish he was
> >on Pand on Democ (as the big shot producer I'm sure he
> >wouldnt let Geordie tell him what to play that time).
> >
> >For me KJ have never matched those early albums and I
> >think the bassplaying is a major reason.  Raven is
> >great but tends to go with the obvious bassline.
> >
> >Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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