[kj] Youth

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 28 15:38:05 EDT 2005


  Yes, I agree that Youf's bass was very good back then; I miss
it. I think it really fit in well. And Raven's needs to be mixed
louder!!
  Yesterday, Culture Club's "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?" was
on the radio and hearing that bass reminded me of Youth's reggae
influence. Also, The Clash's basslines also feel superb. 

--- Tim Bucknall <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com> wrote:

> i think the reason you can hardly hear raven is more down to
> the mixing that
> his actual playing,
> the mixing on his first prong album, makes me want to trash
> the speakers
> 
> i agree that youth was better than good on the first 3 albums,
> he was
> extraordinary,
> 
> as for the Bass on KJ 03 the ones i can actually really hear
> is "House that
> pain built" which is obviously raven and implant which is
> apparently Geordie
> according to the people that know this stuff
> and apparently some of it is programmed,
> It's so brilliant Having Raven back, because it basically
> means that they
> can play anything they want live, any songs from any period,
> can be
> performed tightly and tune
> 
> i'll prob be on the chat for a bit if anyone else is bored, if
> i vanish its
> because i've being forced to talk to my relatives :-)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "melinda grant" <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [kj] Youth
> 
> 
> > youth was a better more choppy--melodic and even funky twang
> bass player
> > than raven--u can hear his lv of and 4 the bass in any early
> works--just
> > compare the difference to raven---half the time,i can hardly
> hear ravens
> > bass--thats now bland it is,n yes youth did write those bass
> lines --his
> > bass lines in the early days--of course he  n  gordie would
> improvise
> > ect--chuk idears bak n 4th,but youth knew his stuff,he was
> no slakker-n
> > gordie knows his stuff,they complimented each other
> beautifully n
> > intensly---as 4 k.j.o3 the bass is pritty heavy on that,n
> really rather
> > good,at last after all these yrs,raven is catching up with
> youth,but its
> > taken bloody yrs,n in the end,youth is the better of the 2.
> >
> > mel ldn uk.    ps get youth bak full time jaz,u know it
> makes sense.
> >
> > >From: bluce ree <bluceree2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Subject: [kj] Youth
> > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:39:19 +0100 (BST)
> > >
> > >This has probably been discussed before but anyway...
> > >
> > >Did Youth actually write the basslines on KJ, WTF and
> > >revs?  Things like Exit, Empire Song and Chop Chop
> > >have such brilliant basslines that manage to be subtle
> > >but amazing.  It compliments the guitar work rather
> > >than attempting to double it.
> > >
> > >It makes you wonder if Geordie showed him what to
> > >play.  Especially when you consider how rubbish he was
> > >on Pand on Democ (as the big shot producer I'm sure he
> > >wouldnt let Geordie tell him what to play that time).
> > >
> > >For me KJ have never matched those early albums and I
> > >think the bassplaying is a major reason.  Raven is
> > >great but tends to go with the obvious bassline.
> > >
> > >Thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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