[kj] democracy remaster

[Tim Bucknall]

If Lubricated Goat can sound like classic Geordie in 2003 surely Geordie
can!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh Newton" <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] democracy remaster


> I don't think it was looking to the market anymore
> than Pandemonium was. Or even Nighttime, if you
> consider what was huge then. Does that make it bad?
> Hell no. Some of the best music in the world was
> written with the specific goal of it being a hit.
>
> But i don't even think that's a valid argueing point,
> cuz in 2003, it was all about garage band horseshit,
> fake new-wave, and having a "The" at the start of your
> band-name. If it was pandering on their part, then it
> was about 5 years off the mark.
>
> And goshdarnit, i'm just about sick of people
> describing the album as "bad metal". How about GOOD
> metal? That's a little more like it. To me, it sounds
> like Killing Joke's take on heavy music, just like
> Nighttime and Brighter were both their version of a
> more poppy sound. Yes, it's a different sound than
> what we're used to, but the simple fact is that YOU
> WILL NEVER HEAR THEM DO ANYTHING LIKE THE FIRST FOUR
> ALBUMS EVER AGAIN!!!!
>
> Leigh
>
>
> --- god botherer <acroastic at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Pilgrimage and Absent Friends are great, great
> > songs, albeit virtually
> > neutered by the most appalling production. Listen
> > again. There is true
> > passion there.
> >
> > I won't argue with your views on Lanterns and
> > Another Bloody Election
> > however - two of the worst KJ tracks ever committed
> > to vinyl.
> >
> > As for KJ 2003 - great production, great drumming,
> > and no really bad tracks,
> > but we all know it wasn't the authentic KJ - too
> > much looking to the market.
> >
> > Perhaps they're just about to get it right?
> >
> > Si
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> > (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] democracy remaster
> > >Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >If you want to talk about filler, then look no
> > further
> > >than Democracy. Cuz it's RIFE with it. Lanterns,
> > >Pilgrimage, Absent Friends, Another Bloody
> > Election.
> > >The only real standouts are Savage Freedom (one of
> > >their best songs period, actually), Aeon,
> > Democracy,
> > >Intellect and Medicine Wheel. And even those really
> > >great songs can never truly be enjoyed because they
> > >get screwed over by the mix. Same kind of thing as
> > And
> > >Justice For All by Metallica. YOu can't truly enjoy
> > >any of the songs on it because of the horrible
> > >production. KJ2003 is a much more powerful album,
> > and
> > >i think that Blood On Your Hands and Seeing Red
> > hold
> > >up with some of the best KJ tracks and Total
> > Invasion,
> > >Implant, Asteroid, Loose Cannon (fuck you guys, i
> > love
> > >it), and House That Pain Built are strong
> > contenders.
> > >Aaaaaaaand....i dig the lizard voice too!
> > >
> > >Leigh
> > >
> > >--- Peter Moltesen <moltesen at freenetname.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Alexander Smith" said
> > > >
> > > > > Are you suggesting, oh ye of troubled mind,
> > that
> > > > KJ2003 is inferior to
> > > > > OUTSIDE THE GATE?
> > > >
> > > > personally I wouldn't say that - half of KJ 2003
> > > > (mainly the first half) is
> > > > fantastic, prime KJ, but lets face it it runs
> > out of
> > > > steam a bit after Blood
> > > > on your hands - there is a fair amount of filler
> > on
> > > > there too - You'll never
> > > > get to me, Loose Cannon, Dark
> > Forces...............I
> > > > know its all a matter
> > > > of personal taste but for my money theres little
> > > > wrong with most of the
> > > > actual songs on Democracy - the odd dodgy lyric
> > > > perhaps, but Geordie's
> > > > massed guitars (including acoustic) more than
> > > > compensates for that.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > >
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