[kj] democracy remaster

[Leigh Newton]

I don't think it was looking to the market anymore
than Pandemonium was. Or even Nighttime, if you
consider what was huge then. Does that make it bad?
Hell no. Some of the best music in the world was
written with the specific goal of it being a hit. 

But i don't even think that's a valid argueing point,
cuz in 2003, it was all about garage band horseshit,
fake new-wave, and having a "The" at the start of your
band-name. If it was pandering on their part, then it
was about 5 years off the mark. 

And goshdarnit, i'm just about sick of people
describing the album as "bad metal". How about GOOD
metal? That's a little more like it. To me, it sounds
like Killing Joke's take on heavy music, just like
Nighttime and Brighter were both their version of a
more poppy sound. Yes, it's a different sound than
what we're used to, but the simple fact is that YOU
WILL NEVER HEAR THEM DO ANYTHING LIKE THE FIRST FOUR
ALBUMS EVER AGAIN!!!! 

Leigh


--- god botherer <acroastic at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Pilgrimage and Absent Friends are great, great
> songs, albeit virtually 
> neutered by the most appalling production. Listen
> again. There is true 
> passion there.
> 
> I won't argue with your views on Lanterns and
> Another Bloody Election 
> however - two of the worst KJ tracks ever committed
> to vinyl.
> 
> As for KJ 2003 - great production, great drumming,
> and no really bad tracks, 
> but we all know it wasn't the authentic KJ - too
> much looking to the market.
> 
> Perhaps they're just about to get it right?
> 
> Si
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> (the band!)" 
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" 
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] democracy remaster
> >Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >If you want to talk about filler, then look no
> further
> >than Democracy. Cuz it's RIFE with it. Lanterns,
> >Pilgrimage, Absent Friends, Another Bloody
> Election.
> >The only real standouts are Savage Freedom (one of
> >their best songs period, actually), Aeon,
> Democracy,
> >Intellect and Medicine Wheel. And even those really
> >great songs can never truly be enjoyed because they
> >get screwed over by the mix. Same kind of thing as
> And
> >Justice For All by Metallica. YOu can't truly enjoy
> >any of the songs on it because of the horrible
> >production. KJ2003 is a much more powerful album,
> and
> >i think that Blood On Your Hands and Seeing Red
> hold
> >up with some of the best KJ tracks and Total
> Invasion,
> >Implant, Asteroid, Loose Cannon (fuck you guys, i
> love
> >it), and House That Pain Built are strong
> contenders.
> >Aaaaaaaand....i dig the lizard voice too!
> >
> >Leigh
> >
> >--- Peter Moltesen <moltesen at freenetname.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Alexander Smith" said
> > >
> > > > Are you suggesting, oh ye of troubled mind,
> that
> > > KJ2003 is inferior to
> > > > OUTSIDE THE GATE?
> > >
> > > personally I wouldn't say that - half of KJ 2003
> > > (mainly the first half) is
> > > fantastic, prime KJ, but lets face it it runs
> out of
> > > steam a bit after Blood
> > > on your hands - there is a fair amount of filler
> on
> > > there too - You'll never
> > > get to me, Loose Cannon, Dark
> Forces...............I
> > > know its all a matter
> > > of personal taste but for my money theres little
> > > wrong with most of the
> > > actual songs on Democracy - the odd dodgy lyric
> > > perhaps, but Geordie's
> > > massed guitars (including acoustic) more than
> > > compensates for that.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
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