[kj] PTV was: TG Wreckers/Coil

Fri Apr 22 00:50:35 EDT 2005

Same goes for me. i wore Iron Maiden and Metallica
shirts in junior high and was heralded as Satan's
spawn. Now, the same sort of people wear the Maiden
shirt and a smirk to go with it, knowing they're in on
some hilarious joke. Almost as fresh and hilarious as
saying the word "Mullet".  HA HA HA HA HA HA. Fuck
this piece of shit world. 

Leigh

--- Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> Leigh anecdoted:
> 
> " I was getting so pissed off, and coming around a
> corner and seeing brand-spanking new Ramones shirts
> beside shirts that
> read "Mullets Rule!" wasn't helping matters any."
> 
> Grrrrr. Don't get me started on this.  I often get a
> tremendous amount of grief for harping about this
> sort've stuff on ILM, but what do you expect from a
> gaggle of pabulum-engorged 50 Cent fans? The
> sartorial trappings of vintage Punk Rock/Metal are
> now being peddled to the Ashlee Simpson/Good
> Charlotte fans of the world and it stings my hide
> like a fuckin' angry scorpion. When I was coming of
> age in the early 80's, not only were cool t-shirts
> celebrating/espousing my favorite bands fucking hard
> to find, but I often caught a maelstrom of flak from
> certain popular circles in my schools for wearing
> them. Nowadays, pre-faded Ramones and CBGB shirts
> are sold in fucking Urban Outfitters, and
> supermodels and teen pop stars sport Motorhead
> t-shirts as if they were designed by fuckin' Dolce &
> Gabanna. About six months ago, I spotted a HIGH
> SCHOOL GIRL wearing a Plasmatics t-shirt. As a long
> suffering Plasmatics fan myself (and you can go
> ahead and quiz me on Plasmatics specifcs....no
> poseur I in that respect...I owned the records
> [however lame] and put in the hours), I hold their
> sullied legacy dear (here is band that never got
> their proper due). I wanted to grab the little rug
> rat by the fuckin' throat, slam her against the
> nearest slab of accomodatingly abrassive pavement
> and start constricting her fucking trachea unless
> she could ACTUALLY NAME THREE SONGS BY THE BAND SHE
> WAS ADVERTISING.
> 
> Yes, I'm old and obsessed with meaningles, fading
> trivia and just a swallow's flight away from a
> midlife crisis, but to my grave I will staunchly
> maintain the following: IF YOU'RE NOT AN ACTUAL FAN
> OF THE BAND, DON'T FLY THEIR FUCKING COLORS!
> 
> Alex in NYC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Apr 22, 2005 12:10 AM
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] PTV was: TG Wreckers/Coil
> 
> That seems to be the problem every which where these
> days. The availability of music has taken such a sad
> turn in recent years. Seems similiar to music video
> stations. I'm not really sure how it is or was on
> MTV,
> but i know that here in Canada, Muchmusic used to be
> really cool. It was just a totally random selection
> of
> videos throughout the day - the cure, queen,
> anthrax,
> TLC, kate bush, elvis costello, violent femmes, etc
> etc - just like a video jukebox, really. Then there
> were also a bunch of shows, like the metal show, the
> rap show, the alternative show, blah blah. Now, i
> guess because people can see MTV via digital cable,
> they feel they have to compete, so it's just a bunch
> of horrible, celebrity-obsessed bullshit about cars
> and contests and fucking slogan-spewing assholes.
> God
> forbid you ever see a video in its entirety anymore.
> Was MTV ever cool? 
> 
> Anyways, it seems like the same goes as far as
> record
> stores are concerned. I was in one today and there
> was
> just nothing, nothing, NOTHING. I was getting so
> pissed off, and coming around a corner and seeing
> brand-spanking new Ramones shirts beside shirts that
> read "Mullets Rule!" wasn't helping matters any. I
> came out ok though. I got the new Locust EP which is
> 10 minutes of insanity sandwiched between
> interesting,
> electronic breaks; a used copy of Lash by the Jesus
> Lizard, and a DVD i didn't even know existed. It's a
> Slayer show from their most recent tour and it's the
> Reign in Blood album in full, plus a few other
> songs.
> Pretty awesome. Anyways, sorry for rambling on and
> on.
> I just saw Alex's message and it reignited all the
> frustrations i was feeling earlier.
> 
> Leigh
> 
> Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> > The thing I'm finding about both Coil and PTV
> (tho'
> > not with TG) is 
> > that their stuff is *VERY* hard to find outside of
> > the internet. Time 
> > was when if you were searching for a record and
> you
> > couldn't find in 
> > any of NYC's multiple authoritative mom'n'pop
> record
> > shops, there was a 
> > good chance that the record you were looking for
> > simply didn't exist. 
> > Sadly, this is no longer the case. You go to these
> > shops and they'll 
> > have seven dozen copies of the new Radiohead album
> > (or whomever), yet 
> > whole sections of more esoteric artists (the `Joke
> > included) are empty 
> > and covered in dust.
> > 
> > It's sad, really.
> > 
> > Alex in NYC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, April 20, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Peter
> > Moltesen wrote:
> > 
> > >>>   There are a ton of live albums.  Some are
> > great (Live in Tokyo) and
> > > some
> > >>> suck (Live in Rekysjesyk??).
> > >
> > > you mean "Those who do not" ?
> > > strangely enough thats one of my favourite PTV
> > albums
> > > oh well - each to their own
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
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