[kj] DON ¹ T FORG/gulf war dance

Tim Bucknall tim.bucknall at btinternet.com
Tue Apr 12 03:54:24 EDT 2005


well it backfired on them if they did cos Saudi was actually invaded  in 
90/91 by Iraq
they didn't get far but they did briefly hold small bits of Saudi sand!
and BTW in relation to Kuwait i said sovereign country not sovereign 
power! ;-)

ade wrote:

> Didn't the Saudi royal family have a BIG hand in the first Iraq 
> invasion? I thought they were scared of Saddam & bankrolled the whole 
> thing.
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net
>     [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]*On Behalf Of
>     *gregslawson at aol.com
>     *Sent:* 07 April 2005 12:48
>     *To:* gathering at misera.net
>     *Subject:* Re: [kj] DON ¹ T FORGET TO VOTE
>
>     Tim Dude,
>     I don't think it means much to call Kuwait a "sovereign power". It
>     is a country with only 60,000 citizens!!!!!!!! Most of the other
>     people who live there (it must be about a million or so, right?)
>      are laborers, many immigrants, with very few rights. Sounds like
>     a large slave colony to me. The first Gulf War was also about the
>     US controlling oil, just like the recent one was. In fact, a
>     couple of days before the US invaded, they told Iraq it was ok
>     with them to invade Kuwait. Then Bush I went through a whole bunch
>     of rationales for the war, and they planted yellow ribbons
>     everywhere to win the public to it (I remember during the first
>     week or so of the war, many opposed it. We marched on a major road
>     in Boston, blocking traffic for about 20 minutes during rush hour,
>     and all people did was honk and wave in support! Then the
>     propoganda took over, and everyone seemed pro-war, more than they
>     are now).
>      
>     -----Original Message---- -
>     From: Tim Bucknall <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
>     To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>     <gathering at misera.net>
>     Sent: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:09:56 +0100
>     Subject: Re: [kj] DON ¹ T FORGET TO VOTE
>
>     theres a difference between defending a sovereign country that had
>     British Military bases from an invading neighbour 
>     and then just deciding to attack someone on the basis of made up
>     evidence 
>      
>     ade wrote: 
>      
>     >Yeah, I mean 'cos it wasn't the Tories who took us to war 
>     >in 1991 was it? 
>     > 
>     >-----Original Message----- 
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>     >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>     <mailto:gathering-bounces%40misera.net%5dOn> Behalf Of bluce ree 
>     >Sent: 06 April 2005 21:04 
>     >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
>     >Subject: Re: [kj] DON ¹ T FORGET TO VOTE 
>     > 
>     > 
>     >well it's all a load of bollocks but the plus side 
>     >with Howard is that B ush doesnt like him, which by 
>     >default makes him a better person. 
>     > 
>     >but yeah it's all shit, all politicians are wankers 
>     >and frankly i'd rather find blood in my urine than 
>     >vote for any of them but Blair is a murderer and I 
>     >feel compelled to vote for his strongest rival. 
>     > 
>     > 
>     >--- circuit bender <circuit_bender at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:circuit_bender%40yahoo.com>> wrote: 
>     > > 
>     >>you might as well be saying bring back mosley. 
>     >> 
>     >>Tim Bucknall <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com
>     <mailto:tim.bucknall%40btinternet.com>> wrote:i 
>     >>think i'm going to be forced into the same position 
>     >>to be honest 
>     >>Bluce, but it sickens me that howard didn't oppose 
>     >>the war, 
>     >>i mean he could have cleaned up in the polls if he'd <
>     BR>>>opposed the war, is 
>     >>he stupid as well as a vampire? 
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