RE: [kj] DON ¹ T FORGET TO VOTE

[ade]

Didn't the Saudi royal family have a BIG hand in the first Iraq invasion? I
thought they were scared of Saddam & bankrolled the whole thing.
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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of gregslawson at aol.com
  Sent: 07 April 2005 12:48
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  Subject: Re: [kj] DON ¹ T FORGET TO VOTE


  Tim Dude,
  I don't think it means much to call Kuwait a "sovereign power". It is a
country with only 60,000 citizens!!!!!!!! Most of the other people who live
there (it must be about a million or so, right?)  are laborers, many
immigrants, with very few rights. Sounds like a large slave colony to me.
The first Gulf War was also about the US controlling oil, just like the
recent one was. In fact, a couple of days before the US invaded, they told
Iraq it was ok with them to invade Kuwait. Then Bush I went through a whole
bunch of rationales for the war, and they planted yellow ribbons everywhere
to win the public to it (I remember during the first week or so of the war,
many opposed it. We marched on a major road in Boston, blocking traffic for
about 20 minutes during rush hour, and all people did was honk and wave in
support! Then the propoganda took over, and everyone seemed pro-war, more
than they are now).

  -----Original Message---- -
  From: Tim Bucknall <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
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  Sent: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:09:56 +0100
  Subject: Re: [kj] DON ¹ T FORGET TO VOTE


  theres a difference between defending a sovereign country that had British
Military bases from an invading neighbour
  and then just deciding to attack someone on the basis of made up evidence

  ade wrote:

  >Yeah, I mean 'cos it wasn't the Tories who took us to war
  >in 1991 was it?
  >
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  >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
  >[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bluce ree
  >Sent: 06 April 2005 21:04
  >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  >Subject: Re: [kj] DON ¹ T FORGET TO VOTE
  >
  >
  >well it's all a load of bollocks but the plus side
  >with Howard is that B ush doesnt like him, which by
  >default makes him a better person.
  >
  >but yeah it's all shit, all politicians are wankers
  >and frankly i'd rather find blood in my urine than
  >vote for any of them but Blair is a murderer and I
  >feel compelled to vote for his strongest rival.
  >
  >
  >--- circuit bender <circuit_bender at yahoo.com> wrote:
  > >
  >>you might as well be saying bring back mosley.
  >>
  >>Tim Bucknall <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com> wrote:i
  >>think i'm going to be forced into the same position
  >>to be honest
  >>Bluce, but it sickens me that howard didn't oppose
  >>the war,
  >>i mean he could have cleaned up in the polls if he'd < BR>>>opposed the
war, is
  >>he stupid as well as a vampire?
  >>
  >>bluce ree wrote:
  >>
  >> >>
  >>>regrettably i'm voting Tory. not because i like
  >>> >>>
  >>them
  >> >>
  >>>or agree with them but because Labour have to lose
  >>> >>>
  >>and
  >> >>
  >>>they are their biggest rivals.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>--- Dave Noonan wrote:
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  >>>
  >>> >>>
  >>>>Since the political shooting season appears to
  >>>> >>>>
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  >> >>
  >>>>opened up in the U.K.
  >>>>(sorry to all our worldwide listeners!), I just&n bsp;
  >>>>thought that I would remind
  >>>>you all to get out and vote on May 5th &shy;
  >>>> >>>>
  >>remember,
  >> >>
  >>>>people died so you have
  >>>>that right...(ducks for cover...!)
  >>>>
  >>>>Dave
  >>>>Leeds
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