[kj] Crowley/Cole/Gudjohnsen MHL G13 R J

Tue Aug 3 10:30:19 EDT 2004

FUCK THAT
     Since my last post we decided to go for a picnic in the park it being a
nice sunny day and that ,After about a 10 min walk into the woods a big
storm cloud come over along with it thunder and lightening.
        Ignoring advice i took shelter under a tree,A THUNDERBOLT OF
LIGHTENING ORIGINATED FROM ABOVE MY HEAD AND LANDED IN THE CEMETERY 100
METRES AWAY.
     DOUBLE FUCK THAT.
We left most of the food there and sprinted home.

 PW.
No more blasphemy from me.

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Crowley/Cole/Gudjohnsen

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Davies" <Patrick.Davies at subsea7.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [kj] Crowley/Cole/Gudjohnsen
>
>
> Interesting Peter
> Can you tell me what choice is?
>
> To really choose you would have all the contributory factors on the
> table to make a decision that would truly reflect choice but we don't do
> we. We are products of manipulation generated from birth when we were
> told to be a good boy/girl.
>
> *We are faced with choices from the day we are born,And those choices
affect
> our future choices ,And if you make the right decisions,It will put you in
a
> position to be able to have more choices.For example if you deicide not to
> attend school,your choices in life will be restricted,If you get educated
> ,more avenues (choices )will be available*
>
>
> Fear, the most primal fear is that of the unknown and the greatest
> unknown is the known, death. We constantly refute its certainty by
> distracting ourselves in bland distractions that we then attribute
> values too!
>    *Those of us who beleive once you are dead you are gone ,ie no
afterlife,
> no ghost ,nothing just an empty cadavere,have no fear because everyone
will
> die oneday,so exept it and enjoy yourself while here.*
>
> With the breakdown of the church as the main tyrannical authority of
> control (why are those books in the Vatican not safe for public
> viewing?) its been replaced by the Church of the New Lords (whatever
> happened to them?) and top of the pile is the church of McDonalds,
> forerunners of the trash get it quick and throw it away generation x
> society (Douglas Copelands book is worth a read)
>
> *Religion had its place in previous generations when society generally was
> uneducated and lawless ,people who lived sqalid lives and death was a
> blessing,those people needed Religion to keep them in place.
>      Nowadays people need something to fill the  spiritual void,(Was Jaz
> serious about forming his own church)I see all these people checking out
> different religions looking for answers,LOOK WITHIN*
>
>
>
>
> People crave these authorities as if participation (consumerism) will
> actually improve the quality of their lives in the same way that the
> junkie takes the fix to enter the dreamland and shut off the noise
> around- the hum, the current. Makes no real difference in the end though
> does it?
>    *It makes a huge difference actually,Try watching football on a black
and
> white 18 inch flickering TV,Then watch the second leg on a 32 inch 100
hertz
> Sony vega,It makes all the difference*
>
> The spiritual side of the question is to wonder if the energy that
> exists goes anywhere else. Ive seen death up close and personal and I
> wonder how something so vibrant one day can be so 'dead' the next.
> Science tells us that energy cant be destroyed doesn't it? It becomes
> something else. So the life force within us would likely do the same and
> if we have a soul where it goes next is an interesting question.
>
> *Sorry wishful thinking,One life is all you get,Make the most out of it as
> you dont get another shot.*
>
>
> So if we accept that there is 'life' after death we need to develop our
> 'spiritual' side to determine any choice we may have when we pass
> through that door. This isn't new as indigenous and 'unintelligent'
> tribes have led by example before being annihilated by the more
> intelligent and industrialising tribes that is acting like an AIDS virus
> to the host.
> *I dont exept life after death,Thats just carrots for the donkeys*
>
> So while we are taught to be subservient by the machine, we crave
> decadent practices to rebel. Sex, rocknroll, drugs...anything that
> make's us feel different. Killing Joke clubs make us feel different than
> other groups and so we seek a slightly different identity to rebel in a
> safe manner. But we probably just feed the machine. Every ones involved
> so theres no need for guilt.
>
> " Sex, rocknroll, drugs...anything that
> make's us feel different."
>   * Are you sure !!!!!!!!! If you want to be really rebellious and
different
> to everyone else DONT take drugs DONT listen to music and DONT coppulate,I
> must be the only person I know(!!!!!!!!!!Am I sure!!!!!!) who has never
> taken E ,No special reason just never fancied it.*
>
>
>
> Sorry I do go on at times......; )
> *P.S my previous "would you go up against Killing............" post was nt
> directed at you .............Just a little ditty to sign off with.*
>
> (P.S.  This is not directed at anyone,just a general observation)
> iPat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter.west410 [mailto:peter.west410 at ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 15 July 2004 07:14
> To: scum at surf.co.nz; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Crowley/Cole/Gudjohnsen
>
> "also, our diets... we are actually paying for the privilege to kill
> ourselves..'
>     Surely what we eat is our own choices........Of the many things that
> piss me off is fat people.....Shows a complete lack of self- discipline.
>     There is people starving in other countries not very far away and
> they
> cant stop gorging themselves.....
>      And when I see programmes on T.V. with people having "Difficulty"
> losing weight,i end up shouting out"Don't eat so much food then you fat
> bastard".
>    (P.S.  This is not directed at anyone,just a general observation)
>
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