[kj] OT a most august Poll

Tue Aug 3 06:47:12 EDT 2004

it is interesting that the majority have also 'stuck' with their faves from
a bygone era. is it a 'gathering' thing where all we hanker for is stuff
long past its sell by or a general trait of the 30+ generation ?

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Some of the bands people have put down are interesting and in seeing their
ages it seems to make sense at times

I know that this risks offending people but its irked me but I think I
understand why!
Some bands success were at the ages when it probably meant something to
them whereas to others at different ages it might have been considered
'pop' and equivalent to boy bands of today! Our influences all have
something to do with our peer grouping don't they?

When peace camps were a good excuse to wreck a few police cars, I recall
the younger punks all suddenly raving on about metal bands that we had
ourselves rejected probably part and parcel of the scene we were in which
saw much antagonism between the two groups. Bikers doing a dance to Status
Quo in lines (as was their way) was always too much a temptation for us and
would obviously see the village hall descend into a battlefield. Motorhead
was the exception as they epitomised the bandit element we all liked rather
than the institutionalised metal styled bands. Living in an area with a
large hells angel population also saw a coming together with ideologies
similar to this as they distanced themselves from the mundane metal acts.

(nb: Crass at Stonehnge. Bizzarrely the hells angels smashed us all as they
thought we were taking over and disrespecting their festival. What someone
forgot to tell them is that Rimbaud, drummer of Crass, was one of the
instigators of the festival after the establishments attack on the
'wallies' after the free festivals at Windsor)

I hear of less violence at gigs now. While I like the idea of people at
peace, I wonder if its down to the lack of anger in music nowadays? Where
are the foetus styled bands nowadays?

in the 80's I saw a general move ? in the music scene that I was involved -
into industrialisation of music and a corresponding development of
industrial techno that merged and with the cross fertilisation of dub then
we saw the manifestation of entities by the end of the decade like the orb,
tackhead, meat beat manifesto?.

Of course this process was generally not chart based and therefore the
teenagers around the 13/14 era were looking for alternatives to the
oncoming Bros and Smash Hits gave them the likes of Adam and the Ants,
which was rightly revolutionary in their eyes but it completely baffles me!
; ) This is why when I played Headcount to some people of my era they were
bemused with the cover version of the ants song and probably why Jesse
James vehemently refused to have anything to do with it as referred to by
Rob. I actually thought they were taking the p*ss out of the song until I
realised that there are people out there who actually liked the Ants beyond
the sox album but who aren't new romantics! ; )

So I enjoyed this thread and hope that people might see beyond any insult
taken and encourage the reason why the influence happened. Age, count(r)y,
the type of drugs, all may have changed the equation. Whatever though, I
have a good list of stuff to maybe look at to see if there is anything in
it for me ? except for the Ants that is! lol

Thanks,
iPat
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      >About once every two years a few of us say how much we like ICU.

      This is my cue to say how much I like ICU :o)

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