[kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye?

Sven Oliver Roth gathering@misera.net
Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:34:16 +0200


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<P>Yes, Alex, honestly!</P>
<P>For once, I have to disagree with you ;)</P>
<P>This track is IMHO definitely not utterly forgettable</P>
<P>for its drum section barrage which is withourt equal in any KJ track,</P>
<P>for its pounding bassline</P>
<P>but of course most of all for its lyrics. </P>
<P>Some time ago there was a discussion going on here if KJ had actually ever done something like a love song. Some folks went at great pains to reconsider some pretty aggessive, fierce, sex-oriented etc tracks as kinda love songs. I had some problems following that interpretation. OK, we remember this evocative line "do it out of love" in Struggle. But thats about fighting, ultimately out of love, but its not really about love itself. Lots of other tracks like Jana are very much about compassion. We have songs reveling in fond memories of Absent Friends or about going to where the lunatics roam in places of Lanterns of Hope. </P>
<P>But love between two individuals?</P>
<P>Now read these lyrics:</P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">There's so much to say<BR>And so little time<BR>I'd like to say thank you<BR>For the moments we shared<BR>They open the blinds<BR>I look through the window<BR>Look into my eyes<BR>And never let go<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">There is so much that you don't see<BR>There is so much that you don't tell<BR>I never told you how much I felt<BR>Now I give you the full truth<BR>Think only the best of me<BR>Think only the best of me<BR>There's only one thing you should know<BR>Love is sweeter than death<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">And in the moment before you take your last breath<BR>Catch my eye<BR>When you know it's your last embrace<BR>Then we'll say our last goodbyes<BR>And in the moment before you take your last breath<BR>Catch my eye<BR>When you know it's your last embrace<BR>Then we'll say our last goodbyes<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><I><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">In 1997 the USA carried out seventy four executions, the highest number for four decades. Only China, Saudi Arabia, and Iran were known to have executed more prisoners.</SPAN></I><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">And in the moment before you take your last breath <BR>Catch my eye<BR>When you know it's your last embrace <BR>Then we'll say our last goodbyes<BR>And in the moment before you take your last breath <BR>Catch my eye<BR>When you know it's your last embrace <BR>Then we'll say our last goodbyes<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Killing Joke, <I>Our Last Goodbye</I> </SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: #6633ff; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Gosh, someone posted here that he just started crying when first&nbsp;listening to "You will never get to me". As far as I am concerned, it was this track that really cought me emotionally. The last goodbye of a loving couple when one of them is going to be executed. You can almost see how they try to remain together, how the guards pull them apart. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">And then towards the end of the track the melody carries on for a moment until&nbsp;suddenly the hellmachine of the drums and the bassline are immediately cut off by the sound of a heavy iron door being&nbsp;shut and locked.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I think this is neither cheap nor tacky nor forgettable. This was done with regard not to some anonymous suppressed masses but to three young innocent boys on death row in Mississipi.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Most of KJ exites me, much moves me but this one never&nbsp;seazes to touch my heart.. Had to get this of the same ;)</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Cheers,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Sven</SPAN></P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Alex Smith" <VASSIFER@EARTHLINK.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:50:05 -0500 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;" I would even go so far as to say that this was one of their best pieces 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;ever. " 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Hmmmm. Honestly? I think it's an utterly forgettable track. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Alex in NYC 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Sven Oliver Roth" <ROTHSVENOLIVER@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2003, 5:14 AM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Yes, KJ reconvened in 1997 to contribute this amazing song to the West 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Memphis CD. Presently I listen to this amazing piece every morning. I would 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;even go so far as to say that this was one of their best pieces ever. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I haven't seen this song anywhere for dowmload so far but got it as track 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;No.9 on the "Aotearoa" CD which I bought quite recently on eBay. To my 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;surprise I didn't get an "official CD" but a burned copy (although very 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;nicely done). I wasn't pissed because of the great and completely unknown KJ 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;material (includes also a KJ track made for Paul Verhoeven's movie Show 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Girls). 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;If the guy who sold this item to me is here on the list, please e-mail me, I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;am curious and have a few questions ;) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;From: Mistress Raevyn 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Reply-To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Subject: Re: [kj] Re. .Our Last Goodbye? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:12:34 -0700 (PDT) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;I believe it is on the The West Memphis 3 cd. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;MR 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;MADELYLE@aol.com wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Was the track "Our Last Goodbye" ever on any joke records.If so, which one? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;when did it come out? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;i've just downloaded it and it's pretty damn good. I would just like to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;know where its place is on the KJ discography. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Cheers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Lyle 
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