[kj] OT: Are we still talking about Evanescence here?

[Alexander Smith]

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" And as a former evangelical Xian myself..."


Ah, there we go then. That explains it.

Alex in NYC



On Saturday, December 20, 2003, at 03:18 PM, culture.virus wrote:

> That may be Greg, but that's not what was said. The statement was that 
> the music was by Xians and therefore moot. Evanescence's music is not 
> of the bible-thumping/converting variety. In fact their label pulled 
> their records from the shelves of Xian bookstores because they are 
> something of an anathema to that particular part of the Xian 
> subculture. And as a former evangelical Xian myself I'm well aware of 
> the subculture and it's  thought patterns. I also know that there are 
> hundreds of bands in that genre who just want to make the best music 
> they can while not betraying firmly held religious beliefs. Their 
> music may reflect their beliefs, but they don't have conversion as 
> their primary focus.
>
> I also want to reiterate what I was saying before, if it's only music 
> by Xian's that is automatically bad, that is a prejudical statement. 
> I've never heard this list tolerate prejudice in any form and for any 
> off color remarks. Recently in the whole Peter West fiasco somebody 
> used the term "ragheads" to describe Islamic people and was roundly 
> chastised. Two days ago bluceree (and others in the past) called Xians 
> "god-botherers" and not an eyebrow raised. It's really sad and 
> laughable at the same. The one thing that won't be tolerated is 
> intolerance. Isn't that what you said?
>
> At 09:21 PM 12/19/03, you wrote:
>> I think the reference to Christian music was specifically to 
>> Christian rock, the bible-thumping purist kind that has as its only 
>> goal the conversion of everyone to Christianity. Their listeners 
>> often listen to no other music, for fear of being sinners. By the 
>> way, religious reggae music is usually Rastifarian, which is a 
>> different religion that Christianity (although it has aspect of it, 
>> as well as Judaism). I don't think it's prejudiced to criticize a 
>> type of music that is only bent on converting people, and tends to 
>> have listeners that are intolerant of others (such as gays and 
>> atheists).
>
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<color><param>D3FA,389F,CD32</param>" And as a former evangelical Xian
myself..."</color>



Ah, there we go then. That explains it.


Alex in NYC




On Saturday, December 20, 2003, at 03:18 PM, culture.virus wrote:


<excerpt>That may be Greg, but that's not what was said. The statement
was that the music was by Xians and therefore moot. Evanescence's
music is not of the bible-thumping/converting variety. In fact their
label pulled their records from the shelves of Xian bookstores because
they are something of an anathema to that particular part of the Xian
subculture. And as a former evangelical Xian myself I'm well aware of
the subculture and it's  thought patterns. I also know that there are
hundreds of bands in that genre who just want to make the best music
they can while not betraying firmly held religious beliefs. Their
music may reflect their beliefs, but they don't have conversion as
their primary focus.


I also want to reiterate what I was saying before, if it's only music
by Xian's that is automatically bad, that is a prejudical statement.
I've never heard this list tolerate prejudice in any form and for any
off color remarks. Recently in the whole Peter West fiasco somebody
used the term "ragheads" to describe Islamic people and was roundly
chastised. Two days ago bluceree (and others in the past) called Xians
"god-botherers" and not an eyebrow raised. It's really sad and
laughable at the same. The one thing that won't be tolerated is
intolerance. Isn't that what you said?


At 09:21 PM 12/19/03, you wrote:

<excerpt>I think the reference to Christian music was specifically to
Christian rock, the bible-thumping purist kind that has as its only
goal the conversion of everyone to Christianity. Their listeners often
listen to no other music, for fear of being sinners. By the way,
religious reggae music is usually Rastifarian, which is a different
religion that Christianity (although it has aspect of it, as well as
Judaism). I don't think it's prejudiced to criticize a type of music
that is only bent on converting people, and tends to have listeners
that are intolerant of others (such as gays and atheists).

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