[Scons-users] compiling external projects and jobs

Manuel naranjo.manuel at gmail.com
Fri Jun 24 09:13:00 EDT 2016


I was thinking parsing the output of: `make --always-make --dry-run` and
with it generate the nodes for SCons, anyone ever tried this?

-Manuel

El jue., 23 jun. 2016 a las 10:24, Jason Kenny (<dragon512 at live.com>)
escribió:

> I have made commands to build stuff from makes file or other build systems
> using SCons. The issues I seen are that depending on how you define these
> actions, SCons may not really know if the items in the makefile are out of
> date. Then there is your issue that you are note that you cannot share
> correctly the number of threads used to do a job with make, thus
> oversubscribing the cores on the system.
>
> The first issue I tend to see a force rebuild of the make, to make sure
> that everything is built correctly, and to deal with a high risk the
> makefile has some issue in how it was defined, prevent incremental build
> for working in some case that might cause bad bits to me created.
>
> I would not worry too much about oversubscribing the system. However I
> would reduce the -j value passed to systems like make. For building it
> generally not an issue to go over 1.5 to 2x the cpus you have given you
> have the memory for the compilers. You don’t want use more RAM than the
> system has during a build as that will really slow down everything to the
> speed of you disks.
>
>
>
> I personally would like to have a makefile parser in python as well as
> this would allow SCons have a builder to read the rules and do the work
> make was doing, but just do it better in my view… or scons would now what
> the makefile depends on and would call it correctly when it should.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> *From:* Scons-users [mailto:scons-users-bounces at scons.org] *On Behalf Of *
> Manuel
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2016 6:25 AM
> *To:* dl9obn at darc.de; SCons users mailing list <scons-users at scons.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Scons-users] compiling external projects and jobs
>
>
>
> I know how to pass the amount of jobs to it, but then the Command builder
> will consume N jobs instead of one and SCons will think it still has N-1
> available starving the CPU. Maybe it's not possible and I need a Makefile
> parser somehow and create generators and targets with it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Manuel
>
>
>
> El jue., 23 de jun. de 2016 05:58, Dirk Baechle <tshortik at gmx.de>
> escribió:
>
> Hi Manuel,
>
> I'm not sure that I understand your mail. Is your basic problem that you
> want to write a customized make/configure builder...but don't know how to
> pass special parameters to it? In this case you'd typically declare an
> environment variable...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dirk
>
> Am 22. Juni 2016 21:48:10 MESZ, schrieb Manuel <naranjo.manuel at gmail.com>:
>
> Guys,
>
>
>
> In the company I work for we compile multiple external projects, some of
> this are based on cmake, others in qmake, etc. I'm thinking on adding
> builders for them, so I can use SCons dependency tracking correctly.
>
>
>
> Problem is that I also want to enable parallel builds, and I can't forsee
> a way to tell SCons builder X is going to use Y processes and not just 1. I
> am missing something? I was thinking on parsing the makefile output of a
> call like `make -B -n` but this would change project to project and doesn't
> seem very efficient.
>
>
>
> I don't want SCons to track external projects inner dependencies, I just
> want it to track that if my program A is to be linked against lib B and lib
> B requires going through configure/make phase it should be ready before the
> linking stage.
>
>
>
> -Manuel
>
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