[RASEY-DNA] FW: Adding members from other labs

Jim Tyler jim.jhtyler at gmail.com
Wed Feb 14 16:12:03 EST 2007


Hi Diana,
I know what you mean. A few years ago a Tyler cousin and I bought identical
books. Fortunately, we spent less than $20.00. We learned our lesson.
Best regards,
Jim

On 2/14/07, Diana Gale Matthiesen <DianaGM at dgmweb.net> wrote:

>

> Hello Jim,

>

> I can tell you there are five of us on the list, but I'm not at liberty to

> divulge their names. If they want to reveal themselves, it's their

> option.

>

> I don't suppose there are any RASEYs/etc. out there who've been tested

> elsewhere, but I felt obliged to pass on the notice of the offer.

>

> Yes, I agree that destroying the myth of a MacLEOD of Raasey origin for

> Joseph

> RASEY has been a blow to many (including this "Highlander" fan!). I'm

> rather

> inclined, though, to think that the actual perpetrator was the author of

> "America Heraldica," Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont (two bits says that wasn't

> his

> real name). He was creating a book for commercial sale (hence the

> hoity-toity

> title and moniker), and there were many of these "vanity" books created

> around

> the turn of the century for this purpose. You sell books by telling

> people what

> they want to hear, and many of these writers/publishers were totally

> unscrupulous. I think our trusting Rev. RASEY was probably duped into

> contributing both his name and, probably, some money to further

> publication of

> the book.

>

> There are still companies out there, today, duping genealogy novices into

> buying

> expensively bound "surname books" that are worthless compilations (e.g.,

> from

> old phone books) and renderings of "coats of arms" that are either

> inappropriate

> or faniciful. When it comes to human vanity, be skeptical -- and hang on

> to

> your wallet!

>

> Diana

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net

> > [mailto:rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net] On Behalf Of Jim Tyler

> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:47 PM

> > To: Mailing list for genealogists interested in using

> > Y-chromosome DNAtesting as an aid to research on surnames

> > RASEY, RAZEY, RAZEY,RACEY, etc.

> > Subject: Re: [RASEY-DNA] FW: Adding members from other labs

> >

> > This is an interesting development, but I wonder how many

> > Rasey's etc. have

> > been tested at other labs. And how many other labs are out there? The

> > results so far may have dismayed Rasey researchers. Myself I

> > was believing

> > the myth as my aunt, Ruth Rasey Simpson, revealed it to me in

> > the early

> > 60's. When I started looking at the Rasey history in 1998, I

> > began to have

> > my doubts and the DNA has proven the myth for what it is. it

> > is too bad that

> > a man of the cloth, Rev. C. E. S. Rasey, was the person apparently

> > responsible for having the Rasey entry made in America

> > Heraldica. The source

> > of his information has been elusive. When he died in

> > Richfield Springs, NY

> > in 1937, his will did not specify the disposal of his papers

> > except in the

> > vague terms that he hoped his executrix would dispose of them

> > as he had

> > indicted. i have contacted various libraries without luck.

> > The fact that he

> > was in Ithaca, NY as a student (at Cornell?) led me to that

> > library, but

> > without any results. If anyone could find his papers, his

> > source might be

> > revealed.

> > Jim Tyler

> > P. S. How many are on this mailing list and is it too much to

> > ask their

> > identity?

> >

> > On 2/14/07, Diana Gale Matthiesen <DianaGM at dgmweb.net> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: max at familytreedna.com

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:54 PM

> > > > To: DianaGM at dgmweb.net

> > > > Subject: Adding members from other labs

> > > >

> > > > To Rasey group manager,

> > > >

> > > > From time to time we receive requests to allow people who

> > have tested

> > > with

> > > > other labs to join Family Tree DNA Surname Projects. We

> > have always

> > > > avoided adding results from other labs to our database

> > because as a

> > > > question of results integrity, we wanted that all project

> > members to be

> > > > tested with Family Tree DNA.

> > > >

> > > > In discussing this subject with a few group

> > administrators we settled on

> > > a

> > > > solution that was to their and our satisfaction: we

> > agreed to offer our

> > > > 12,25 and 37-marker at a below cost rate, so that we can

> > allow those

> > > > individuals to get tested with us and join your Surname

> > Projects. But

> > > this

> > > > will be offered for a limited time.

> > > >

> > > > The individuals will fill in a LAB CONVERSION FORM found at

> > > > http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/PROMO_GAP.pdf (this link is

> > > > also at your GAP), and send it back to our office for

> > verification, so

> > > that we

> > > can

> > > > enter the order. Due to the fact that this is a below

> > cost offer, we are

> > > > limiting the time during which it will be available.

> > Those forms need to

> > > > be filled and returned to us by March 31, 2007. Should

> > you have any

> > > > questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

> > > >

> > > > As always, we thank you for your support.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > E-mail anytime!

> > > >

> > > > Max Blankfeld

> > > > Vice-President, Operations and Marketing

> > >

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