[RASEY-DNA] FW: Adding members from other labs

[Diana Gale Matthiesen]

Hello Jim,

I can tell you there are five of us on the list, but I'm not at liberty to
divulge their names.  If they want to reveal themselves, it's their option.

I don't suppose there are any RASEYs/etc. out there who've been tested
elsewhere, but I felt obliged to pass on the notice of the offer.

Yes, I agree that destroying the myth of a MacLEOD of Raasey origin for Joseph
RASEY has been a blow to many (including this "Highlander" fan!).  I'm rather
inclined, though, to think that the actual perpetrator was the author of
"America Heraldica," Edgar de Valcourt-Vermont (two bits says that wasn't his
real name).  He was creating a book for commercial sale (hence the hoity-toity
title and moniker), and there were many of these "vanity" books created around
the turn of the century for this purpose.  You sell books by telling people what
they want to hear, and many of these writers/publishers were totally
unscrupulous.  I think our trusting Rev. RASEY was probably duped into
contributing both his name and, probably, some money to further publication of
the book.

There are still companies out there, today, duping genealogy novices into buying
expensively bound "surname books" that are worthless compilations (e.g., from
old phone books) and renderings of "coats of arms" that are either inappropriate
or faniciful.  When it comes to human vanity, be skeptical -- and hang on to
your wallet!

Diana


> -----Original Message-----

> From: rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net 

> [mailto:rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net] On Behalf Of Jim Tyler

> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:47 PM

> To: Mailing list for genealogists interested in using 

> Y-chromosome DNAtesting as an aid to research on surnames 

> RASEY, RAZEY, RAZEY,RACEY, etc.

> Subject: Re: [RASEY-DNA] FW: Adding members from other labs

> 

> This is an interesting development, but I wonder how many 

> Rasey's etc. have

> been tested at other labs. And how many other labs are out there? The

> results so far may have dismayed Rasey researchers. Myself I 

> was believing

> the myth as my aunt, Ruth Rasey Simpson, revealed it to me in 

> the early

> 60's. When I started looking at the Rasey history in 1998, I 

> began to have

> my doubts and the DNA has proven the myth for what it is. it 

> is too bad that

> a man of the cloth, Rev. C. E. S. Rasey, was the person apparently

> responsible for having the Rasey entry made in America 

> Heraldica. The source

> of his information has been elusive. When he died in 

> Richfield Springs, NY

> in 1937, his will did not specify the disposal of his papers 

> except in the

> vague terms that he hoped his executrix would dispose of them 

> as he had

> indicted. i have contacted various libraries without luck. 

> The fact that he

> was in Ithaca, NY as a student (at Cornell?) led me to that 

> library, but

> without any results. If anyone could find his papers, his 

> source might be

> revealed.

> Jim Tyler

> P. S. How many are on this mailing list and is it too much to 

> ask their

> identity?

> 

> On 2/14/07, Diana Gale Matthiesen <DianaGM at dgmweb.net> wrote:

> >

> >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: max at familytreedna.com

> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 12:54 PM

> > > To: DianaGM at dgmweb.net

> > > Subject: Adding members from other labs

> > >

> > > To Rasey group manager,

> > >

> > > From time to time we receive requests to allow people who 

> have tested

> > with

> > > other labs to join Family Tree DNA Surname Projects. We 

> have always

> > > avoided adding results from other labs to our database 

> because as a

> > > question of results integrity, we wanted that all project 

> members to be

> > > tested with Family Tree DNA.

> > >

> > > In discussing this subject with a few group 

> administrators we settled on

> > a

> > > solution that was to their and our satisfaction: we 

> agreed to offer our

> > > 12,25 and 37-marker at a below cost rate, so that we can 

> allow those

> > > individuals to get tested with us and join your Surname 

> Projects. But

> > this

> > > will be offered for a limited time.

> > >

> > > The individuals will fill in a LAB CONVERSION FORM found at

> > > http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/PROMO_GAP.pdf (this link is

> > > also at your GAP), and send it back to our office for 

> verification, so

> > that we

> > can

> > > enter the order. Due to the fact that this is a below 

> cost offer, we are

> > > limiting the time during which it will be available. 

> Those forms need to

> > > be filled and returned to us by March 31, 2007. Should 

> you have any

> > > questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

> > >

> > > As always, we thank you for your support.

> > >

> > >

> > > E-mail anytime!

> > >

> > > Max Blankfeld

> > > Vice-President, Operations and Marketing

> >

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