[kj] Pylon and Remaster

Paul dubecho at gmail.com
Tue Jul 13 04:58:05 EDT 2021


Nice one, thanks for that 👍🏼

On Tue 13 Jul 2021, 9:39 AM Anthony Arena, <anthonyarena68 at gmail.com> wrote:

> For some reason, my novella bounced back.
>
> Here you go, 2 days later:
>
> Hi.  Sorry for the late reply. I brought up the topic several weeks ago.
> Ok. IMHO.   Pylon.  I have both the new Vinyl and CD. I have also previous
> versions.  Blue, Original Magenta,  Black (Black because color vinyl may
> have some slight inferior qualities,  clear and white the closer to black,
> but black vinyl,  due to the added polymer, or hardener, makes it the best
> for vinyl pressings.   SOUND.   I'm not so audiophile snob where I state
> I'm using, this cartridge,  this stylus, this preamp, these speakers.
>  I've a great old drive turntable from the mid 80s I listened to my 1st
> Malicious Damage KJ on still.  And I've a really nice high quality
> audiophile turntable that a friend gave me when he upgraded to something
> more ridiculous.  This turntable is forgiving, can provide a smoother sound
> w/o reverberating.  I played the black copy and the new green copy for a
> couple  of days and compared.  Green Remaster,  1st off, nice to have the
> last 3 tracks that weren't on vinyl previously.   2nd. Jaz vocals are
> cleaner,  less drowned by his synths which in some ways,  he may tune or be
> in same frequency?  Youth's bass lines heard more, where previously they
> washed in Geordie's guitar,  following the leader too does help right ?
>  The Remaster is not as hot...or recorded volume level.  These are the
> pros.   Negatives  (note... in comparison,  doesn't make it better or
> worse,  just a little different); the deepness of from when Geordie's
> guitar goes from rhythm,  the to verse, or chorus,  depending upon the
> song, had less depth on my stereo system.  Part of me, no matter,  the
> production or the source, is what I love, when Geordie's sound goes there,
> very distinctly Killing Joke.  But frankly,  for some reason,  KJ seem not
> to be able to translate their sound properly to vinyl,  despite any
> original or remastered IMO, these last 3 albums!  Back to Green Pylon; the
> subliminal,  industrial sound effects and synths are quieter.  The
> compression limits, extensions of the levels on them are more abruptl).
> Last 3 releases, KJ...It's like, the CDs are better, last 3 albums.   Like
> they, or maybe the vinyl too (haven't listened on vinyl on surround )
> would or do sound better in 5.1 or likely, 7.2 surround sound?   I don't
> know if this is due to production,  or, what?  But back to vinyl, don't
> know if whoever lathe cuts sucks, and these pressing plants, suck? Shitty
> Europe plants or who Spinefarm conract?  Or all of the above.   I do know
> Absolute Dissent, great songs,  sounds like shit, especially on vinyl, is
> muddy,  distorted,  has clipping,  and the CD sounds better, 20 percent,
> but still suffers these issues.   As we get  M-2012.... and Pylon,  the
> production improves greatly,  but truly depends on the song.     I own
> Everything KJ on Vinyl.   Everything.  I am a completist.  Green vinyl
> packaging is outstanding.  Colesy kicks ass!   What do you prefer?  Softer,
> cleaner vocals,  more mid-range,  vs... Geordie, deep and high trembles,
> and some washing, more subliminal sound effects and synths?
>
> Generally,  Pandemonium,  I hear more subliminal sound effects,  range,
> syths, but it is softer.
>
> Now the prior IN DUB sounds amazing on vinyl.    And, Geordie's mix, Down
> by the River, sounds great on vinyl.   I wish Geordie was involved in
> mixing.
>
> I don't know why there's no crisp drums on Pylon vinyl, either.  But I'll
> listen to the CD.   All that said.  I also listened on wired component
> headphones and had same impressions.  But they are Bose.  But  I also by
> passed my ok  mid range or receiver and the sound i heard was straight from
> the phono/preamp.
>
> I am a geek.  I am glad I own both and everything on vinyl.
> And I do mean, everything.   That includes 1st pressings,  UK, US, some
> Canadian...promos...and test pressings, singles...and every goddamn CD.
>  I'm a fanatic and have to put wine and bread on the table for the boys.
>
> I'll say this.  Best KJ on vinyl is Malicious Damage 1st pressings.   And
> Of course Invisible records and Youth Dragonfly...(Butterfly too?) Label.
>  The Let Them Eat Vinyl sound good too.  They did a great job.
>
> Btw.  I own every damn cassette version of KJ, if it was made! Geekdom!
>
> I'm gonna rock out to the CD Pylon Remaster soon.  And I haven't hooked up
> my 5.1 or 7.2 yet as I need to drill holes in the walls and mount.   But I
> may run lines and do a temp set up?
>
> I do have a great 11 speaker bose sound stage system in my car...  that
> might be good?  I'll start the engine,  in the garage,  turn on the car,
> get the fumes going.  Get the right level of carbon monoxide mix, just
> right.  If I hear something cool and different,  I'll let you folks know.
>
> You asked, that's my review!  Peace out.
>
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