[kj] Killing Joke Portland setlist, Sept 2, 2018 + notes about the Seattle show

[Adam Helfer]

It’s more that Hilary/Clinton’s are involved in these groups like “Council on Foreign Relations” etc that puts them in that category-
Trump isn’t anywhere close to that..

Certainly not saying that in any way to defend Trump. 

And I’m not sure if the anti Hilary people in Texas level of understanding goes as far as knowing those groups.

 But just saying that trump is small potatoes compared to the clintons in those regards 

Adam

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> On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:12 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard <b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That's probably it. I live in Texas and get frustrated with people who see Hillary as some sort of part of "the elite establishment," yet not Trump, who is like your classic gilded age industrialist who is dabbling in politics and was well connected in the same New York arena of politics that Hillary and his buddy Rudy Giuliani were and are (Trump came from a more privileged background than Bill did, actually). Nevertheless, every Trump supporter I know insists things are getting better since Trump was elected, so for Jaz to come out and say "things are getting worse" is sort of counter to that.. Then again, that's Jaz's shtick -- things are ALWAYS getting worse, always, for ever and ever, lol. For Jaz to come out and say, "You know, things are looking up in the world these days" would be jarring.
> 
> -0liver
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 7:51 AM Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>> Unfortunately I have a suspicion that Jaz is one of those people whose hatred of Hilary Clinton prevents them from coming out and saying that Trump is a colossal disaster. It's not a viewpoint that I entirely understand, but there you go :)
>> 
>> Jim.
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