[kj] RIP Mark E Smith of The Fall

B. Oliver Sheppard b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com
Thu Jan 25 10:48:34 EST 2018


Hah, yeah, re "The Fall of Because," although my understanding is that's a
Crowley reference and the band The Fall is an Albert Camus reference.

Anyone know if KJ and The Fall ever played together? What a show that would
be? Two temperamental frontmen like that in the same room together.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Paul <dubecho at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is also THE FALL of Because ; )
>
> Sad news though, may he rest in peace.
>
> On 25 January 2018 at 15:41, B. Oliver Sheppard <
> b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lest folks think Mark E Smith's passing has no relation to Killing Joke,
>> I've often felt like the track "Dregs" betrays a distinct Fall influence.
>> Maybe Jaz and co. would never admit it, but it sounds an awful lot like the
>> sort of song MES and crew would write:
>>
>> Killing Joke - "Dregs"
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEzZog1Ob-0
>>
>>
>> -0liver
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:53 AM, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In the mid 60s me and the then to be missus were house hunting. We
>>> looked at one in Prestwich north Manchester. They guy was showing us around
>>> the house asked 2do you like the fall?". Strange question I thought but as
>>> it happens I do a lot I told him. Well "Mark E Smith will be your
>>> neighbour" he replied. I think from that point he thought he had a sale on
>>> his hands. Errr no thanks, can you imagine he'd be rearranging my garden
>>> gnomes and the washing on the clothes line all the time.
>>>
>>> Once in Piccadilly records in Manchester on a quiet afternoon I was
>>> perusing the LPs and was looking at Fall records. All of a sudden I felt
>>> somebody just to the right of me very close. I glanced round and it was the
>>> man himself eagerly waiting, I think, to see if I took the record to the
>>> counter. He just stared at me for a few seconds. I didn't say a word, I
>>> daren't. I put the record back and scarpered quick style.
>>>
>>> Nob a lot of the time genius all the time. RIP Mark E Smith.
>>>
>>> Brian.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 January 2018 at 21:33, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fuck
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Jan 2018, at 20:54, wessidetempest . <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Man bummer. Only 60
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:51 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard <
>>>> b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just saw the news on the web. He was 60.
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/24/mark-e-smith-l
>>>> ead-singer-with-the-fall-dies-aged-60
>>>>
>>>> Mark E Smith, the irascible frontman of Manchester post-punk band the
>>>> Fall <https://www.theguardian.com/music/fall>, has died at the age of
>>>> 60.
>>>>
>>>> Smith formed the Fall in 1976 in Prestwich and was the only constant
>>>> member of the band. He was known for his tempestuous relationship with his
>>>> bandmates, and frequently fired them – there have been 66 different members
>>>> over the years, with a third of them lasting less than a year.
>>>>
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