[kj] Fire Dances

[Brian Whitehead]

"Photos of the jeans to follow later ;-)"

Can you still get in them?

Brian.

On 13 August 2018 at 13:49, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
wrote:

> I know you'll kill me for saying this, but - Dominator has never really
> done it for me.  It's grown on me as the years have passed, but it's not in
> my top-5-Fire-Dances tracks.
>
> Agreed, though - KJ live in 83 were full of menace.
>
> Yes, Wilful Days was *released* after the album (as an extra track on Me
> Or You), but it featured in the Fire Dances Peel session, and surely must
> have been written at the same time as the other FD material.
>
> Photos of the jeans to follow later ;-)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> >
> Sent: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:51
> Subject: Re: [kj] Fire Dances
>
> I was still missing the thunder of WTF! when Fire Dances came out - it and
> Revelations sounded so thin in comparison.
> But I thought it was a big improvement on Revelations, more cohesive, and
> it contained Harlequin, which to me was and still
> is the - or at least a - quintessential KJ song. I remember me and mates
> clustered around the TV at the student halls where I was living to
> watch them on The Tube, and Dominator blew my tiny mind (plus Raven in his
> flat cap and Jaz at the keyboards in full paint job).
> I still love Dominator, Harlequin and Song & Dance - Geordie's sound is so
> sharp it'll have your head off.
> As for silliness, well, yeah it was there but the vibe and threat was
> still enough to counter it.
> Wilful Days should have been on it though - or did that come out after the
> LP?
>
> N
> PS photos of the jeans please Jamie
>
> On 12 August 2018 at 15:53, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> wrote:
>
> It was the first album to come out after I fell in love with the Joke, and
> my first-ever Joke gig (indeed my second-ever gig) was on the Fire Dances
> tour.  Me and my best mate played the album to death that summer, and soon
> enough I had a pair of bleached jeans with KILLING written down the front
> of one leg in bleach, and JOKE down the back - in the Fire Dances font
> (thank you, mum).  They're still in a bag upstairs somewhere.
>
> So, listening to it now courtesy of youtube, I can't hear those drums
> crashing in without being transported back to the summer of 1983.  At the
> time (as far as I can recall) I thought it was Jaz imagining some
> post-nuclear world, or maybe some distant past... so the total silliness of
> it the lyrics didn't really register on teenage-me.  But yes, they are
> silly.
>
> That said, they're better than what-I-did-on-my-holidays-by-Jeremy-Coleman-aged-9
> aka Outside The Gate.  And to be honest, most Joke lyrics from the mid or
> late eighties onwards have been some shade of silly.  For what it's worth,
> I suspect that the departure of Big Paul in 1987 or 1988 removed a key
> component of KJ's creative base, and we had a couple of decades of
> conspiracy-theory lyrics combined with chugging guitars as a result.
>
> Musically (and lyrically) it did have a striking unity of character
> though.  You can't listen to a Fire Dances track and think it's from any
> other album.  Admittedly most KJ albums have quite a distinctive character
> of their own - each one very Killing Joke, but also different from the
> others - but I think Fire Dances has it more than most.  I'm listening to
> Feast of Blaze at the moment, which on the vinyl was the opening track of
> side 2, and once again I'm back in 1983, watching the needle drop onto the
> vinyl, the red and yellow centre spinning round...
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HG <hgrey1935 at gmail.com>
> To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 6:23
> Subject: [kj] Fire Dances
>
> Been listening to this album tonight and have such a love/hate
> relationship with it. The first album post-Jaz Iceland meltdown and the
> first new songs without Youth. Some great riffs by Geordie and great
> drumming by Paul, but the lyrics and song titles leave me flat and seem
> juvenile. Fun and Games? Song and Dance? Let's All Go to the Fire
> Dances?? Who were they trying to appeal to with this album? Lust Almighty
> gets the award for best tune with worst lyrics. Still looking forward to
> seeing them in SF in Sept...
>
> Harold
> San Jose, CA
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