[kj] Ha

Carlos Fandango stronkle at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Oct 26 15:49:19 EDT 2017


I would have loved them to have done an official studio version of "new culture".

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From: Nick Scott via Gathering<mailto:gathering at misera.net>
Sent: ‎10/‎26/‎2017 3:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [kj] Ha

Apart from the shameful recycling guitar riff of the B Side "Ecstasy" in
"Obsession", the god awful "Hollywood Babylon", Drug", "Me Or You" and the awful
Youth radio mix of "Jana", they have gotten most other stuff right.

> On 26 October 2017 at 19:50 Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Agreed re quality control. I love hearing these rarities - and 'The
> Fanatic' and 'Blue Feather' are probably the strongest of the rejected
> batch - but I think over the years they've pretty much got it right
> with regard to what made the cut and what didn't,
>
> On 10/26/17, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
> > Never got the Fanatic. I think it’s one they were right to keep back. Like
> > Feast Of Fools I find. A bit generic.
> >
> > I think their quality control
> > Is pretty damn good on the whole.
> >
> >> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:21, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> In fact it's even pretty rare for them to play something and it not appear
> >> on an official studio release (other than retrospectives etc).  Only ones
> >> I've personally seen are the Fanatic (which I saw at those two UK gigs in
> >> spring 89) and Timewave (London).  Always liked the Fanatic & couldn't
> >> understand why it didn't make the album - I think it's better than some of
> >> the tracks that did.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> >> <gathering at misera.net>
> >> Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:12
> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
> >>
> >> No, I don't think so. Sorry if I caused confusion by appearing to
> >> suggest that. I was trying to illustrate how relatively rare it is for
> >> songs to be dropped (either entirely or from albums) at the live stage
> >> without any sort of studio version or demo. So far the only example
> >> anyone has been able to come up with (other than 'Take Take Take'
> >> obviously) is 'The Hive', which was a precursor. I guess there are
> >> also those very early crap ones like 'You're Being Followed'. I think
> >> there was an early live version of 'Solitude' that bore absolutely no
> >> relation to the album version too.
> >>
> >> On 10/25/17, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >> > 4 Stations Of The Sun has been performed live?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Paul
> >> > Rangecroft
> >> >
> >> > Yes, 'The Hive' never saw any kind of official release but it was a
> >> > precursor (to 'Harlequin'?). 'The Fanatic' has a studio version. So
> >> > does
> >> > 'Sun Goes Down'. '4 Stations of the Sun' does too. Well, a demo, anyway.
> >> > I
> >> > guess it's just a convenient coincidence that Ha! was released with an
> >> > exclusive track, fancy that.
> >> >
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