[kj] Ha

Neil Perry 65snoopy at gmail.com
Wed Nov 1 11:42:06 EDT 2017


Been on a huge DAF listening binge recently, what with the first 4 albums
being re-released,
and they are apparently doing gigs - would be nice if they got the support
slot on any upcoming
KJ gigs, although of course highly unlikely.

I was trying to remember the order of the songs on KJ's intro tape from
back in the day,
- Gary Glitter Rock N Roll, DAF Der Mussolini and Alex Harvey Booids... but
wasn't there
another regular song in there somewhere? Whenever that synth riff of Der
Mussolini started up, always knew
it was time to get down the front...

On 1 November 2017 at 12:41, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
wrote:

> Top memories of support bands:
>
> Lords of the New Church (the Damned, 1983)
> Play Dead & Danse Society (Killing Joke, 1983)
> Big Black (Killing Joke, 1986)
> Sporadix (Ruts DC, er, 2015 or so)
>
> ...doubtless others too.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> >
> CC: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Sent: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:19
> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
>
> Support bands are always a mixed bag. As far as KJ supports go, I really
> enjoyed Treponem Pal and loved The Crying Spell, but didn't much like the
> Icarus Line and Selfish C*nt were just ridiculous. I couldn't believe
> they'd actually bagged a Killing Joke support slot. Outside of KJ, I quite
> enjoyed The Black Crowes opening for the Stones, but they had electrical
> problems and had to just jam for long periods. I saw Heaven's Basement
> supporting a Japanese band. Nowhere near as good as the main act, but not
> too horrible. Jim. On Tue, 31/10/17, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
> gathering at misera.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [kj] Ha To: gathering at misera.net
> Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com Date: Tuesday, 31 October, 2017, 21:49 I don't
> remember the support act. ---- Original Message ---- From: fatpotanga . <
> fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!) <gathering at misera.net> Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 7:17 am Subject:
> Re: [kj] Ha Alas no Jim, I've muddled who/what/where/when. I do it a lot.
> Was the Taif gig the one where the support got all despondent & kept saying
> how crap they were? They all played Firebirds and were actually pretty
> good.  On 30 Oct 2017 7:16 p.m., "Jim Harper via Gathering" <
> gathering at misera.net> wrote: I dimly remember Raven was supposed to have
> approached Jaz and Geordie and said that he wants back in the band because
> he can do it better so it's not unfeasible that he went to see that lineup
> first. Would he have asked to rejoin if he honestly thought Taif was doing
> an excellent job? I didn't know him very well but he never seemed to have
> that kind of ego. Jim. On Mon, 30/10/17, fatpotanga . <
> fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:  Subject: Re: [kj] Ha  To: "A list about all
> things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>  Date: Monday, 30
> October, 2017, 19:55  Ah, was that the  Taif one. I definitely remember one
> there with Raven. Pre  and post Extremities?I'm getting old and
>  confused. Taif one was a great gig. I was at the  front opposite him. Had
> no idea who he was, just remember a  manic grin.At least I think I  do...
>  On 30 Oct 2017 6:39 p.m.,  "jpwhkj--- via Gathering" <
> gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  Blimey, Raven was  there?  I wonder what
> he made of Taif...  -----Original  Message-----  From: fatpotanga . <
> fatpotanga at gmail.com>  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!) <gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:34  Subject: Re:
> [kj] Ha  I was there - fantastic gig. I was stood watching the  support
> right at the back near the bar, looked to my left  and there was raven
> watching intently. Never occurred to me  to speak to him.  I think it was
> that one my that mum's car got  stolen from. Id borrowed it  and parked on
> a really dodgy  side street!  I may be remembering it wrong but I think
> they played  there a couple of times in fairly close succession.  Shame the
> Internationals have gone, they were great  venues.  On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at
> 17:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering  <gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  Can't
> remember the address, but Manchester  International II, if memory serves.
> Followed by the  Kilburn Ballroom in London a couple of nights later.  And
> yeah, it was feckin amazing.  Nostalgic Jamie  -----Original  Message-----
>  From: Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com>  To: Gathering <
> gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:13  Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
>  Jamie,  Was the Manchester gig the one at the International on  Plymouth
> Grove. Best KJ gig I've seen.  Brian.  On  27 October 2017 at 09:58,
> jpwhkj--- via Gathering  <gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  Not sure where
> it would go, but I'd find it a  home ;-)  I know you love Extremities, but
> there are a few  tracks that don't really do it for me.  The two gigs in
> question were pretty mental anyway (the  Manc one in particular featured an
> ongoing battle between  two local gangs).  Basically, we'd all suffered our
> way  through 1988 and Outside the Gate, and the Joke apparently
>  imploding... and suddenly here they were, with a load of new  tracks that
> stood up alongside the old material.  I for one  was massively relieved!
>  The Manc gig was also the scene of one of my favourite  KJ moments.  Most
> of you have heard it before (probably  several times) but I'll mention it
> briefly.  I hitchhiked up to Manchester, and was lucky with my  lifts so
> got there mid-afternoon.  I found the venue, and  the doors were all open
> so I wondered in and found the Joke  doing their soundcheck.  They played
> something as a band  (Frenzy, perhaps?) and then Jaz came and stood at the
> back  and listened while Geordie played Night Time on his own.   Jaz was
> obviously entranced, and so was I.  There were bits  that I'd previously
> assumed were keyboards that were  actually guitar.  Hearing Geordie on his
> own was  incredible.  Jamie  -----Original Message-----  From: adrianwason <
> adrianwason at btinternet.com>  To: A list about all things Killing Joke
> \\(the  band!\\) <gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:21
>  Subject: Re: [kj] Ha  I  love the Fanatic!  Where would you place it on
> Extremities though?  Never saw it live, I imagine it was mental!
>  ----Original  message----  From : rob.moss at gmx.com  Date : 26/10/2017 -
> 11:29 (GMTDT)  To : gathering at misera.net  Cc : jpwhkj at aol.com  Subject :
> Re: [kj] Ha  Never got the Fanatic. I think it’s one they were  right to
> keep back. Like Feast Of Fools I find. A bit  generic.   I think their
> quality control  Is pretty damn good on the whole.   On 26 Oct 2017, at
> 11:21, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  In fact
>  it's even pretty rare for them to play something and it  not appear on an
> official studio release (other than  retrospectives etc).  Only ones I've
> personally seen  are the Fanatic (which I saw at those two UK gigs in
> spring  89) and Timewave (London).  Always liked the Fanatic &  couldn't
> understand why it didn't make the album - I  think it's better than some of
> the tracks that did.  -----Original Message-----  From: Paul Rangecroft <
> paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!) <gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:12  Subject: Re:
> [kj] Ha  No, I don't think so. Sorry if I caused confusion by  appearing to
>  suggest that. I was trying to illustrate how relatively rare  it is for
>  songs to be dropped (either entirely or from albums) at the  live stage
>  without any sort of studio version or demo. So far the only  example
>  anyone has been able to come up with (other than 'Take  Take Take'
>  obviously) is 'The Hive', which was a precursor. I  guess there are  also
> those very early crap ones like 'You're Being  Followed'. I think  there
> was an early live version of 'Solitude' that  bore absolutely no  relation
> to the album version too.  On 10/25/17, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com>
>  wrote:  > 4 Stations Of The Sun has been performed live?  >  >
> -----Original Message-----  > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces@
> <gathering-bounces@?>  misera.net] On Behalf Of Paul  > Rangecroft  >  >
> Yes, 'The Hive' never saw any kind of official  release but it was a  >
> precursor (to 'Harlequin'?). 'The  Fanatic' has a studio version. So does
>  > 'Sun Goes Down'. '4 Stations of the  Sun' does too. Well, a demo,
> anyway. I  > guess it's just a convenient coincidence that Ha!  was
> released with an  > exclusive track, fancy that.  >  >
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