[kj] Ha

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Wed Nov 1 07:41:11 EDT 2017


Top memories of support bands:


Lords of the New Church (the Damned, 1983)
Play Dead & Danse Society (Killing Joke, 1983)
Big Black (Killing Joke, 1986)
Sporadix (Ruts DC, er, 2015 or so)


...doubtless others too.




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
CC: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:19
Subject: Re: [kj] Ha

Support bands are always a mixed bag. As far as KJ supports go, I really enjoyed Treponem Pal and loved The Crying Spell, but didn't much like the Icarus Line and Selfish C*nt were just ridiculous. I couldn't believe they'd actually bagged a Killing Joke support slot.Outside of KJ, I quite enjoyed The Black Crowes opening for the Stones, but they had electrical problems and had to just jam for long periods. I saw Heaven's Basement supporting a Japanese band. Nowhere near as good as the main act, but not too horrible.Jim.On Tue, 31/10/17, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [kj] Ha To: gathering at misera.net Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com Date: Tuesday, 31 October, 2017, 21:49  I don't remember the support act.       ---- Original Message ----  From: fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com>  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 7:17 am  Subject: Re: [kj] Ha         Alas no Jim, I've muddled who/what/where/when. I do it a lot.     Was the Taif gig the one where the support got all despondent & kept saying how crap they were? They all played Firebirds and were actually pretty good.       On 30 Oct 2017 7:16 p.m., "Jim Harper via Gathering" <gathering at misera.net> wrote:  I dimly remember Raven was supposed to have approached Jaz and Geordie and said that he wants back in the band because he can do it better so it's not unfeasible that he went to see that lineup first. Would he have asked to rejoin if he honestly thought Taif was doing an excellent job? I didn't know him very well but he never seemed to have that kind of ego.      Jim.      On Mon, 30/10/17, fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:       Subject: Re: [kj] Ha    To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>    Date: Monday, 30 October, 2017, 19:55       Ah, was that the    Taif one. I definitely remember one there with Raven. Pre    and post Extremities?I'm getting old and    confused. Taif one was a great gig. I was at the    front opposite him. Had no idea who he was, just remember a    manic grin.At least I think I    do...    On 30 Oct 2017 6:39 p.m.,    "jpwhkj--- via Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>    wrote:    Blimey, Raven was    there?  I wonder what he made of Taif...                      -----Original    Message-----       From: fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com>       To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>       Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:34       Subject: Re: [kj] Ha                               I was there - fantastic gig. I was stood watching the    support right at the back near the bar, looked to my left    and there was raven watching intently. Never occurred to me    to speak to him.       I think it was that one my that mum's car got    stolen from. Id borrowed it  and parked on a really dodgy    side street!                   I may be remembering it wrong but I think they played    there a couple of times in fairly close succession.       Shame the Internationals have gone, they were great    venues.                On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 17:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering    <gathering at misera.net>    wrote:          Can't remember the address, but Manchester    International II, if memory serves.  Followed by the    Kilburn Ballroom in London a couple of nights later.                            And yeah, it was feckin amazing.                                  Nostalgic Jamie                                                                   -----Original    Message-----          From: Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com>          To: Gathering <gathering at misera.net>          Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:13          Subject: Re: [kj] Ha                                                       Jamie,             Was the Manchester gig the one at the International on    Plymouth Grove. Best KJ gig I've seen.             Brian.                                        On    27 October 2017 at 09:58, jpwhkj--- via Gathering    <gathering at misera.net>    wrote:          Not sure where it would go, but I'd find it a    home ;-)  I know you love Extremities, but there are a few    tracks that don't really do it for me.                                        The two gigs in question were pretty mental anyway (the    Manc one in particular featured an ongoing battle between    two local gangs).  Basically, we'd all suffered our way    through 1988 and Outside the Gate, and the Joke apparently    imploding... and suddenly here they were, with a load of new    tracks that stood up alongside the old material.  I for one    was massively relieved!                                                 The Manc gig was also the scene of one of my favourite    KJ moments.  Most of you have heard it before (probably    several times) but I'll mention it briefly.                                                 I hitchhiked up to Manchester, and was lucky with my    lifts so got there mid-afternoon.  I found the venue, and    the doors were all open so I wondered in and found the Joke    doing their soundcheck.  They played something as a band    (Frenzy, perhaps?) and then Jaz came and stood at the back    and listened while Geordie played Night Time on his own.     Jaz was obviously entranced, and so was I.  There were bits    that I'd previously assumed were keyboards that were    actually guitar.  Hearing Geordie on his own was    incredible.                                                 Jamie                                                                                                             -----Original Message-----             From: adrianwason <adrianwason at btinternet.com>             To: A list about all things Killing Joke \\(the    band!\\) <gathering at misera.net>             Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:21             Subject: Re: [kj] Ha                                                 I    love the Fanatic!          Where would you place it on Extremities though?                   Never saw it live, I imagine it was mental!             ----Original    message----             From : rob.moss at gmx.com             Date : 26/10/2017 - 11:29 (GMTDT)             To : gathering at misera.net             Cc : jpwhkj at aol.com             Subject : Re: [kj] Ha                                                    Never got the Fanatic. I think it’s one they were    right to keep back. Like Feast Of Fools I find. A bit    generic.                                                  I think their quality control                   Is pretty damn good on the whole.                                On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:21, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>    wrote:                                           In fact    it's even pretty rare for them to play something and it    not appear on an official studio release (other than    retrospectives etc).  Only ones I've personally seen    are the Fanatic (which I saw at those two UK gigs in spring    89) and Timewave (London).  Always liked the Fanatic &    couldn't understand why it didn't make the album - I    think it's better than some of the tracks that did.                                                          -----Original Message-----                From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>                To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>                Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:12                Subject: Re: [kj] Ha                               No, I don't think so. Sorry if I caused confusion by    appearing to                suggest that. I was trying to illustrate how relatively rare    it is for                songs to be dropped (either entirely or from albums) at the    live stage                without any sort of studio version or demo. So far the only    example                anyone has been able to come up with (other than 'Take    Take Take'                obviously) is 'The Hive', which was a precursor. I    guess there are                also those very early crap ones like 'You're Being    Followed'. I think                there was an early live version of 'Solitude' that    bore absolutely no                relation to the album version too.                               On 10/25/17, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com>    wrote:                > 4 Stations Of The Sun has been performed live?                >                > -----Original Message-----                > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces@    misera.net] On Behalf Of Paul                > Rangecroft                >                > Yes, 'The Hive' never saw any kind of official    release but it was a                > precursor (to 'Harlequin'?). 'The    Fanatic' has a studio version. So does                > 'Sun Goes Down'. '4 Stations of the    Sun' does too. Well, a demo, anyway. 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