[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 36

Jim Harper jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
Fri May 5 06:23:03 EDT 2017


Thanks for the reasoned response.

Familiar...

Jim.

On Fri, 5/5/17, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

 Go waste someone else’s time
 Jamie.   

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 Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 36  So, the US govt was stolen by
 fascists in 1963, and they conspired to have Trump as
 candidate in order to make it a shoe-in for Hillary, but
 they miscalculated and Trump won - correct?
   As an aside, have they been
 running the country all of the time in between 1963 and
 2016?
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
 To: 'Alex Smith' <vassifer at earthlink.net>;
 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
 <gathering at misera.net>
 Sent: Thu, 4 May 2017 19:01
 Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
 Issue 36How would you know whether
 you’re not wrong or not (not)? No one’s got a script of
 what happened in the alternate universe where The Deep
 State Figure-Headed by Shitlery ‘won’, so all anyone
 can do is make an educated guess. “I wasn’t wrong” is
 an assertion with no supporting evidence.
 
 You got agitated when the MSM
 got slagged off & you defended it, apparently ‘cos you
 had / have some good friends there? That’s a fair
 comment—I worked with plenty of great people in currency
 trading, ‘The Corporation’ explains why / how—but
 it’s not an argument.To make an educated guess about
 Shitlery vs STFU Donny, we’d need to debate the following,
 just off the top of my head:
 The term
 ‘Arkancide’
 Rape claims vs Bill,
 Hillary’s ‘defence’ thereof (defence meaning attacking
 / threatening accusers), victims’ / accusers’ claims of
 harassment, threats, NUMBER OF CLAIMS SETTLED OUT OF COURT,
 settlement monies paid, the similarities in M.O. (biting the
 lower lip…)
 Hawkish stance / threats of
 war vs Russia
 Lying under oath, criminal
 destruction of evidence after supobneaFucking Bernie over
 Choosing / promoting Trump as an opponent
 because he’d he easy fodder#Pizzagate (FYI I’m gonna need a
 bit more than ‘debunked; next’)
 Tens of
 millions of $ from corporates / banks / Soros; 
 Historically unprecedented MSM bias
 Pre-served debate questions
 Health problems: multiple instances of loss of
 consciousness or similar; lesions under tongue;
 Parkinsons-like nodding / startle reaction etcSNAP QUIZ: How many times did
 Hillary and Bill, respectively, visit convicted pedophile
 billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s Orgy Island or fly on the
 Lolita Express, and how many times were SS (Secret Service)
 stood down?My opinion? It pretty obvious the
 US Govt. was stolen by a cabal of murderous, criminally
 insane CIA* fascists**, mafioso and others, in late 1963 (if
 not earlier, by others) and this quibbling is entirely the
 wrong argument, but hey…
 
 *George Bush Snr. forgot he was in Dallas
 (poss. Dealy Plaza) on the day of JFK’s
 assassination…easy mistake to make—Nixon did the same
 thing ;)
 
 ** Prescott
 Bush, Snr’s Daddy was charged & convicted for
 providing assistance to the Nazis;
 **
 Operation Paperclip: large-scale importatation of senior
 Nazis to the US post WWII.
 
 Couple of the best resources I’ve found in
 the last year or so: http://www.ponerology.com/
  https://isgp-studies.com/
  Finally, PAUL IS DEAD!
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 Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
 168, Issue 36  Odd that a response from January
 is re-surfacing now, although the sentiments expressed still
 hold true.  Trump was a tremendous, idiotic
 mistake. I wasn't wrong. -Alex in NYC 
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 --Again — this isn’t about
 Obama, this isn’t about Hilary and this isn’t about
 Bernie. Stop comparing them and alluding to them. This is
 about Trump, and all that he represents, and everything
 he’s bringing on board.  I’m stunned that someone can
 look at Trump’s actions of the past few days and still
 entirely okay with it. But, … maybe you don’t live
 here? In any case, I did ask, and you
 did answer, so thanks for that. I should probably let it go
 right there. Alex in NYC   On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:27 PM, kevin
 <0> wrote: Yeah, I can
 see why someone would see Trump as infantile because he
 often acts kind of like a cab driver but I like that about
 him. He is genuine and not reading off a teleprompter. I and
 virtually everyone I know can be infantile-its part of being
 human, I can`t knock someone for being a regular guy-that`s
 what I want to see. putin can be infantile sometimes but
 that guy is a fucking leader. As far as narcissism goes half
 the world is in a state of narcissism as far as I can tell.
 There is an enormous percentage of young people who just
 want to be `famous` with no other aim than that. Trump just
 strikes me as being one of those guys who likes to flaunt
 his wealth like a Frank Warren or a David Sullivan.
 Personally I have no problem with people like that-that
 lifestyle is not for me but if someone is into all that then
 thats their right to live how they want if they can achieve
 it. This guy employs thousands of people and makes a real
 difference to their lives- he has built shit for most of his
 life- what the fuck has Obama ever done apart from feather
 his own nest and slither up the political ladder with his
 globalist agenda driven backers like Zbigniew Brezinski. And
 Obama has to be the most narcissistic person I have ever
 seenMr `has
 anybody got a bottle of water` Obama.This is
 another thing with trump- he is painted as this awful
 person- well I don`t see how someone so bad and secretly
 degenerate could raise 2 sons who can go on national TV and
 have respectful and erudite debates with professional
 talking heads and come out on top. Those kids of his are
 disciplined and  well raised-they are not my kind of person
 but they are clearly not the offspring of some arsehole
 narcissist as opposed to Paris Hilton or something. They wheeled
 out that old hippy Richard Branson a while ago who was going
 on about a meeting he had with trump and how Trump was the
 most vindictive person he had ever met and how awful it
 would be to have such a vindictive person in the White
 house- since he got in he has not shown evidence of that
 accusation- in fact the two people that I thought he was
 going to go after, Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz have not been on
 the recieving end of anything from Trump as far as I
 know. He had the
 whole of the GOP against him and trying to stop him and he
 has just brushed that off and got on with it like a
 businessman.And yes jim
 you are right-they did attack Clinton but thats just the
 campaign, thats politics, the point i was making is that
 every media outlet worldwide-even the traditional Republican
 party -didn`t want him to win-You go and watch the second
 debate he had with Clinton- AnerCIAon Cooperhas clearly got
 an agenda to bring down Trump-its written all over his face-
 he is looking at Trump like he is going for him but at the
 same time he is petrified of him. In my univers that debate
 would be made into a film. That was one of the most
 incredible things Ive ever seen.Any yeah
 Alex-his first week has been strange to say the least-just
 imagine- a candidate getting in and then proceeding to do
 what he said he was going to do in his campaign. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUipvrMYw9g
 
 Obama and the Fake Fainting
 Fainters Who Faintwww.youtube.comJudge for
 yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wxMTh_UzHMYouTubewww.youtube.comand share it all with friends,
 family, and the world on
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 There is no reason for hope with the Trump
 administration. He?s only surrounded himself with equally
 myopic assholes. His first week in office was already a
 giant leap backwards. The only thing worth hoping for is his
 impeachment ? and even that will come with a hefty price,
 being that his vice-president (who would succeed him in
 office) is a religious fundamentalist and creationist who
 believes in gay conversion therapy and doesn?t believe
 smoking is bad for you.
 
 The
 notion that Trump?s tenure in office is gong to get us all
 killed is not fantastic hyperbole, but a very real
 possibility.
 
 You should be
 scared.
 
 -Alex in NYC
 
 
 
 > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Rob Moss
 <rob.moss at gmx.com>
 wrote:
 > 
 > Really interesting perspective
 > 
 > Kind of how I feel. 
 > 
 > Is Trump a punk rocker in political
 terms?
 > 
 > Yes. He's a bell end. But so is Johnny
 Rotten
 > 
 > Gotta have hope I suppose but one thing I
 know is that we humans shall adapt to the conditions. Just
 cos someone says it's true it doesn't have to be. 
 I think we have more power than we think
 > 
 > Like Jim says. Let's wait and
 see. 
 > 
 > He's gotta provide he's not a Cunt
 though. And he's not doing tooooooo well!
 > 
 > Vive l'anarchie!
 > 
 > On 29 Jan 2017, at 17:26, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>
 wrote:
 > 
 >> He is I pray going to scale back U.S
 intervention overseas Alex- something virtually everyone has
 been
 >> 
 >>  banging on about for years -but for
 some reason now they find it unacceptable because its
 Trump.
 >> 
 >> This election also basically revealed
 that the MSM is completely losing its grip on peoples
 perceptions of reality
 >> 
 >> which I have found incredibly
 exciting. Even if a monkey who could count had taken a
 couple of hours to observe what was going on via the
 internet from July to November 8  it would have been able
 to see that the only way Hillary was going to win was by
 stealing it. Mainstream media is going down. Its been
 happening for a while but now its happening fast.   
 >> 
 >> There has been a god knows how long
 smear campaign across the board worthy of Goebbels and he
 still won. They brought out everything they have to throw
 against him and people still saw through it. I find that
 really exciting. I find it hilarious that all these plastic
 off the peg anarchists running around and smashing shit up
 because of Trump when he is probably the most anarchic thing
 to have happened in western politics ever. 
 >> 
 >> I mean come on, what a fucking joke ,
 anarchists telling me that Trump shouldn't be president
 because he `isn`t a politician.`
 >> 
 >> You just got rid of a president who
 had weekly kill meetings, who said he was `good at killing
 people` and said `I can do anything I want- I`m the
 president` and you would have got that with knobs on if
 Hillary had got in. We have missed a serious bullet
 IMHO 
 >> 
 >> 
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 >> Still doesn?t explain why a Trump win
 would ?overjoy? you.
 >> 
 >> Hold up, though ? to your point, Jaz
 has a CELLPHONE?
 >> 
 >> Alex in NYC
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:14 AM,
 kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>
 wrote:
 >> > 
 >> > Mike like I said BPF put up an
 anti Trump piece by John Pilger on his FB.
 >> > There was an interview with Jaz
 in Finland I think it was , backstage in a grotty looking
 dressing room
 >> > where he was
 checking messages on his PHONE(!!!!!) and he stated he was
 probably more relieved
 >> > that
 Hillary didn`t get in as opposed to Trump. Don`t shoot the
 messenger-it was on one of those
 >>
 > KJ fan FB pages.
 >> > I havent
 got any connections to the far right that I know of- but I
 do look at the Sport and Money pages
 >> > on the Daily Mail website quite
 often so I suppose that does qualiify me in some peoples
 eyes
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
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 >> > Kevin I would love to know what
 Breibart has been spot on with?  It's been
 >> > demonised because of its
 connections with the far right and the KKK?  I am
 >> > hoping you are not connected to
 either!  There are lots of unbiased articles
 >> > about TTIP you could look at or
 are you just used to going to Breibart
 >> > liking what you read and then
 going with that?
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > 
 >> > TTIP would be right up Trumps
 street given his own global brands a good
 >> > example because his option to a
 windfarm 3 miles off the coast of Scotland
 >> > because it might spoil the view
 from his golf course?  Never mind the clean
 >> > energy if will supply to the
 people who actually live in Scotland.  TTIP
 >> > would allow him to challenge and
 beat legislation of the Scottish Parliament
 >> > despite the fact the the fat
 stupid c..t lives in America.  The bloke is
 >> > disgusting, stop reading Breibart
 coz it is clearly messing with your head.
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > 
 >> > I still want to know where Jaz,
 Big Paul etc. said what you posted yesterday
 >> > coz it contradicted everything I
 have seen them say. 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > 
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 >> >  
 >> > 
 >> > I just trawl alternative media
 Alex.
 >> > 
 >> > Breitbart has been spot on with a
 lot of things.
 >> > 
 >> > But of course it has been
 demonsed so i`m not supposed to look at it.
 >> > 
 >> >  
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 >> >   _____  
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 >> > 
 >> > You?re using Breitbart as a
 credible source?
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > Alex in NYC
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 10:01
 AM, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>
 <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>>
 wrote:
 >> > > 
 >> > > 
 >> > > 
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 >> > > 
 >> > > 
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 >> > > 
 >> > > 
 >> > >
 >>
 > http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador->
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador->>
 >> > ttip-dead/
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> 
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
 >> > 
 >> > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>
 >> > 
 >> > The economist and academic hotly
 tipped to be President Trump's ambassador
 >> > to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 >> > starter" and won't
 progress under the Trump administration.
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
 >> > 
 >> > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>
 >> > 
 >> > The economist and academic hotly
 tipped to be President Trump's ambassador
 >> > to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 >> > starter" and won't
 progress under the Trump administration.
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > >
 >>
 > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/>     
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
 >> > 
 >> > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>
 >> > 
 >> > The economist and academic hotly
 tipped to be President Trump's ambassador
 >> > to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 >> > starter" and won't
 progress under the Trump administration.
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > > Trump's Prospective EU
 Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
 >> > <
 <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> 
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> 
 >> > 
 >> >  
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>>
 >> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
 >> > 
 >> > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>
 >> > 
 >> > The economist and academic hotly
 tipped to be President Trump's ambassador
 >> > to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 >> > starter" and won't
 progress under the Trump administration.
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>> 
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/><http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>> 
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> >  < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>> 
 >> > 
 >> >  < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>>
 Breitbart News Network
 >> > 
 >> > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>
 >> > 
 >> > Syndicated news and opinion
 website providing continuously updated headlines
 >> > to top news and analysis
 sources.
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> >  < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>> 
 >> > 
 >> >  < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>>
 Breitbart News Network
 >> > 
 >> > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
 <http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/>>
 >> > 
 >> > Syndicated news and opinion
 website providing continuously updated headlines
 >> > to top news and analysis
 sources.
 >> > 
 >> > 
 >> > > The economist and academic
 hotly tipped to be President Trump's ambassador
 >> > to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 >> > starter" and won't
 progress under the Trump administration.
 >> > > 
 >> > > 
 >> > > 
 >> > > > On Jan 28, 2017, at
 9:02 AM, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>
 <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com<mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>
 <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>>>
 wrote:
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > That`s why I made a
 differentation and said `presumably dying.`
 >> > > > So lets wait and see
 what happens with the TIPP.
 >> >
 > > As for talking crap. Well on the day that I walk
 past a TV and SKY news
 >> > are
 >> > > > reporting on `what this
 spraying programme is` and `why the public
 >> > shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get
 >> > > > back to you on that.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Alex- me typing  3
 days worth of wall taxt isn`t going to mak any
 >> > difference to what you
 think. 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>>
 < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>>>>
 on behalf of
 >> > gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-request at misera.net<mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>>>
 >> > <gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net<mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>><mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>>>>>
 >> > > > Sent: 28 January 2017
 06:24
 >> > > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
 >> > > > Subject: Gathering
 Digest, Vol 168, Issue 20
 >> > >
 >  
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > > 
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering<https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering<https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering<https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
 <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering<https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>
 >> > > > Gathering Info Page
 - pairlist4.pair.net <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>
 <http://pairlist4.pair.net/ <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://pairlist4.pair.net/ <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>
 <http://pairlist4.pair.net/ <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering<https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering<https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
 <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering<https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>>
 >> > > > pairlist4.pair.net <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>
 <http://pairlist4.pair.net/ <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>http://pairlist4.pair.net/ <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://pairlist4.pair.net/ <http://pairlist4.pair.net/>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-request at misera.net <mailto:gathering-request at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-owner at misera.net <mailto:gathering-owner at misera.net>
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 >> > > > 
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 >> > > > than "Re: Contents
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 >> >
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 >> > > > 
 >> > > > The Gathering -
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 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Today's Topics:
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >    1. Re: Gathering
 Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15 (Mike Cooper)
 >> > > >    2. Re: Gathering
 Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15 (Jim Harper)
 >> > > >    3. Re: Gathering
 Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15 (Richard Hopkins)
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >
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 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Message: 1
 >> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017
 20:27:26 -0000
 >> > > > From:
 "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk<mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
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 >> > > > To: "'A list
 about all things Killing Joke \(the
 band!\)'"
 >> > >
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 >> > > > Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 >>
 > > > Message-ID: <007501d278db$c6a4dd70$53ee9850$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk<mailto:007501d278db$c6a4dd70$53ee9850$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
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 >> > > > Content-Type:
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 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Aren't TTIP and TPP
 completely different things?  I thought the former
 >> > was
 >> >
 > > concerning the deals for corporations and
 government which Trump The C.
 >> >
 > > would almost certainly support and the latter a
 trade deal with pacific
 >> > >
 > nations which he has ended.
 >>
 > > > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Oh and by the way Kev
 you're talking crap.
 >> > >
 > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > From: Gathering [
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 On Behalf Of kevin
 >> > > >
 Sent: 27 January 2017 06:57
 >> >
 > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > > Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 >>
 > > > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > I`m happy Trump got in.
 Fucking overjoyed actually.
 >> >
 > > 
 >> > > > Seem to recall there
 was a post on here around August from someone in
 >> > the UK
 >>
 > > > I think 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > declaring he didn`t
 have a prayer. Mmmm.
 >> > >
 > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > I think Jaz mentioned
 he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get in
 >> > but he
 >>
 > > > seems to change his views like the weather on
 these things.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > He seemed to be really
 revelling in teasing the UK audiences about `How
 >> > is
 >> >
 > > your Brexit going?` etc but I also heard he was
 `50/50` on that
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > (strange for someone
 who seems to jump on people for being `fence
 >> > sitters.`)
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Jaz ws very outspoken
 on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m sure he is
 >> > > > revelling in that
 presumably dying..
 >> > >
 > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > I don`t think BPF likes
 him but can`t speak for others. He put up a John
 >> > > > Pilger piece which was
 very anti Trump during the election..
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Geordie no idea but a
 big supporter of EU so I hear.
 >> >
 > > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Youth I assume is
 wearing a Pink Pussy hat and waving a placard with a
 >> > > > crying polar bear on it
 or something...
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Message: 3
 >> > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017
 20:25:03 -0500
 >> > > > From:
 Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
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 >
 >> > > > To: "A
 list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
 >> > > >         <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >
 >> > > > Subject: [kj]
 Killing Joke in the Age of Trump
 >>
 > > > Message-ID: <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
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 >> > > > Content-Type:
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 >> > >
 > 
 >> > > > At the risk of possibly
 re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
 >> > > > participated in back in
 November (wherein certain member of our
 >> > estimable
 >> > > > collective got a bit
 combative on the subject of the election to the
 >> > point
 >>
 > > > where I actually left the fold for a bit),
 I?m wondering how everyone?s
 >> >
 > > feeling only six days into the era of Trump as
 President.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > My feelings haven?t
 changed. I still believe it was an incalculable
 >> > mistake.
 >>
 > > > 
 >> > > > But what about you?
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > More relevant to this
 list ? where are Messrs. Coleman, Walker, Glover
 >> > and
 >> >
 > > Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in periodically
 on FB about Trump
 >> > (he,
 >> > > > unsurprisingly, does
 not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m positively
 >> > gagging
 >>
 > > > to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about
 him.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Anyway, let?s hear your
 thoughts. I promise not to swan off like jilted
 >> > prom
 >>
 > > > queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
 Euro-centric (right?) group
 >> >
 of
 >> > > > folks have to say
 at this point.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > The mood here in NYC,
 suffice to say, is not positive.
 >>
 > > > 
 >> > > > Cheers, you fuckers.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Alex in NYC.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >
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 >> > > > Gathering -- A list
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 >> > > > Gathering: The
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 >> > > > Message: 2
 >> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017
 21:01:25 +0000 (UTC)
 >> > > >
 From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
 <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk<mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk<mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk<mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
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 >> > > > To: "A list about
 all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
 >> > > >         <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > > Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 >>
 > > > Message-ID: <247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com<mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com>
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 >> > > > Content-Type:
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 >> > >
 > 
 >> > > > You are correct Mike.
 The TIPP involves only the US and the EU. It's a
 >> > separate beast entirely.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Jim.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike
 Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk<mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>
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 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk<mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>>>
 wrote:
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >  Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 >>
 > > >  To: "'A list about all things
 Killing Joke (the band!)'"
 >>
 > <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>>
 >> > > >  Date: Friday, 27
 January, 2017, 20:27
 >> > >
 >  
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Aren?t TTIP and TPP
 completely
 >> > > > 
 different things?? I thought the former was concerning
 the
 >> > > >  deals for
 corporations and government which Trump The C?
 >> > > >  would almost
 certainly support and the latter a trade deal
 >> > > >  with pacific nations
 which he has ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
 >> > > >  talking crap. ?From:
 Gathering
 >> > > >  [ <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
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 On Behalf Of
 >> > > > 
 kevin
 >> > > >  Sent: 27
 January 2017
 >> > > > 
 06:57
 >> > > >  To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > >  Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol
 >> > >
 >  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
 >> > > >  overjoyed
 actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
 >> > > >  here around August
 from someone in the UK I think
 >> >
 > >  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
 >> > > >  Mmmm.
 >> > > >  ?I think Jaz
 >> > > >  mentioned he was more
 relieved that Hillary didn`t get in
 >>
 > > >  but he seems to change his views like the
 weather on these
 >> > > > 
 things.He seemed to be really revelling
 >> > > >  in teasing the UK
 audiences about `How is your Brexit
 >>
 > > >  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50`
 on
 >> > > >  that(strange
 for someone who seems to
 >> > >
 >  jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
 >> > > >  ws very outspoken on
 TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m
 >> > > >  sure he is revelling
 in that presumably dying.. ?I don`t think BPF
 >> > likes him but
 >> > > >  can`t speak for
 others. He put up a John Pilger piece which
 >> > > >  was very anti Trump
 during the election..Geordie no idea but a big
 >> > > >  supporter of EU so I
 hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing a Pink
 >> > > >  Pussy hat and waving
 a placard with a crying polar bear on
 >> > > >  it or something...
 ?
 >> > > >  ?
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Message: 3
 >> > > >  Date: Thu, 26 Jan
 >> > > >  2017 20:25:03
 -0500
 >> > > >  From:
 Alexander Smith
 >> > > > 
 <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
 <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
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 >> > > >  To: "A list
 about all things Killing Joke
 >> >
 > >  (the band!)"
 >> >
 > >  ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > >  Subject: [kj] Killing
 Joke in the Age of
 >> > > > 
 Trump
 >> > > >  Message-ID:
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
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 >> > >
 >  
 >> > > >  At the risk of
 possibly
 >> > > > 
 re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I participated
 in
 >> > > >  back in
 November (wherein certain member of our estimable
 >> > > >  collective got a bit
 combative on the subject of the
 >>
 > > >  election to the point where I actually left
 the fold for a
 >> > > > 
 bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six days
 >> > > >  into the era of Trump
 as President.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  My feelings haven?t
 changed. I still believe it
 >> >
 > >  was an incalculable mistake.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  But what about
 you?
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  More relevant to this
 list ? where are Messrs.
 >> > >
 >  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth
 has
 >> > > >  weighed in
 periodically on FB about Trump (he,
 >>
 > > >  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
 acolyte), but I?m
 >> > > > 
 positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say
 >> > > >  about him.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Anyway, let?s
 >> > > >  hear your thoughts. I
 promise not to swan off like jilted
 >>
 > > >  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this
 largely
 >> > > > 
 Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at this
 >> > > >  point.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  The mood here in
 >> > > >  NYC, suffice to say,
 is not positive.
 >> > >
 >  
 >> > > >  Cheers, you
 fuckers.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Alex in NYC.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  
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 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >
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 >> >
 > > 
 >> > > > Message: 3
 >> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017
 21:43:47 +0000
 >> > > > From:
 Richard Hopkins <ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>
 <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com<mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>
 <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>>>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>
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 >> > > > To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
 <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk<mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk<mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk<mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
 <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>>>>,
 "A list about all things
 >> >
 > >         Killing Joke (the band!)"
 <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > > Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 >>
 > > > Message-ID: <9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com<mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com<mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com<mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>
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 >> > > > Content-Type:
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 >> > >
 > 
 >> > > > You guys and you're
 alternative facts....Sad!
 >> > >
 > 
 >> > > > (?)
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > On 27 January 2017, at
 21:01, Jim Harper via Gathering
 >>
 > <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>>
 wrote:
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > You are correct Mike.
 The TIPP involves only the US and the EU. It's a
 >> > separate beast entirely.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > Jim.
 >> > > > 
 >> > > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike
 Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk<mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
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 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk<mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>>>
 wrote:
 >> > > > 
 >> > > >  Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 >>
 > > >  To: "'A list about all things
 Killing Joke (the band!)'"
 >>
 > <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > >  Date: Friday, 27
 January, 2017, 20:27
 >> > >
 >  
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Aren?t TTIP and TPP
 completely
 >> > > > 
 different things?? I thought the former was concerning
 the
 >> > > >  deals for
 corporations and government which Trump The C?
 >> > > >  would almost
 certainly support and the latter a trade deal
 >> > > >  with pacific nations
 which he has ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
 >> > > >  talking crap. ?From:
 Gathering
 >> > > >  [ <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>
 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>>>]
 On Behalf Of
 >> > > > 
 kevin
 >> > > >  Sent: 27
 January 2017
 >> > > > 
 06:57
 >> > > >  To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
 >> > > >  Subject: Re: [kj]
 Gathering Digest, Vol
 >> > >
 >  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
 >> > > >  overjoyed
 actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
 >> > > >  here around August
 from someone in the UK I think
 >> >
 > >  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
 >> > > >  Mmmm.
 >> > > >  ?I think Jaz
 >> > > >  mentioned he was more
 relieved that Hillary didn`t get in
 >>
 > > >  but he seems to change his views like the
 weather on these
 >> > > > 
 things.He seemed to be really revelling
 >> > > >  in teasing the UK
 audiences about `How is your Brexit
 >>
 > > >  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50`
 on
 >> > > >  that(strange
 for someone who seems to
 >> > >
 >  jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
 >> > > >  ws very outspoken on
 TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m
 >> > > >  sure he is revelling
 in that presumably dying.. ?I don`t think BPF
 >> > likes him but
 >> > > >  can`t speak for
 others. He put up a John Pilger piece which
 >> > > >  was very anti Trump
 during the election..Geordie no idea but a big
 >> > > >  supporter of EU so I
 hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing a Pink
 >> > > >  Pussy hat and waving
 a placard with a crying polar bear on
 >> > > >  it or something...
 ?
 >> > > >  ?
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Message: 3
 >> > > >  Date: Thu, 26 Jan
 >> > > >  2017 20:25:03
 -0500
 >> > > >  From:
 Alexander Smith
 >> > > > 
 <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
 <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
 <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
 < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
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 >> > > >  To: "A list
 about all things Killing Joke
 >> >
 > >  (the band!)"
 >> >
 > >  ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 >> > > >  Subject: [kj] Killing
 Joke in the Age of
 >> > > > 
 Trump
 >> > > >  Message-ID:
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
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 >> > < <applewebdata://C3C203F7-EA8F-4319-92A8-9769D2C45F71>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
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 >> > > >  Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset=utf-8
 >> > >
 >  
 >> > > >  At the risk of
 possibly
 >> > > > 
 re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I participated
 in
 >> > > >  back in
 November (wherein certain member of our estimable
 >> > > >  collective got a bit
 combative on the subject of the
 >>
 > > >  election to the point where I actually left
 the fold for a
 >> > > > 
 bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six days
 >> > > >  into the era of Trump
 as President.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  My feelings haven?t
 changed. I still believe it
 >> >
 > >  was an incalculable mistake.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  But what about
 you?
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  More relevant to this
 list ? where are Messrs.
 >> > >
 >  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth
 has
 >> > > >  weighed in
 periodically on FB about Trump (he,
 >>
 > > >  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
 acolyte), but I?m
 >> > > > 
 positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say
 >> > > >  about him.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Anyway, let?s
 >> > > >  hear your thoughts. I
 promise not to swan off like jilted
 >>
 > > >  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this
 largely
 >> > > > 
 Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at this
 >> > > >  point.>> > > >  
 >> > > >  The mood here in
 >> > > >  NYC, suffice to say,
 is not positive.
 >> > >
 >  
 >> > > >  Cheers, you
 fuckers.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  Alex in NYC.
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  
 >> > > >  
 >> > > > 
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 >> > > >  Gathering is a
 mailing list about the band Killing
 >>
 > > >  Joke.
 >> > >
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 >> > > >  End of Gathering
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 >> > > >  168,
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