[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 165, Issue 39 Brendan Message 1
kevin
patrickvieira at msn.com
Thu Nov 10 06:31:06 EST 2016
I`m with you Brendan.
We are in the Princess Diana car crash days of mass hysteria and knee jerk knicker wetting.
We had a candidate who was openly rattling the sabre at Russia (a very psychopathic game) whilst the
other candidate has been openly making overtures toward making peace with them and now people are talking
about Trump creating a third world ward when he is talking about scaling things back.
He has had the whole corrupt media apparatus-that anarchists are so fond of being `wise to`-against him and those self same
anarchists etc are citing that as the reason why it is just UNTHINKABLE that Trump could be elected.
The hypocricy and general lack of self awareness is mind boggling.
The same anarchists and leftists who were such a central part of the `Occupy` movement are now openly weeping and kicking off in
the streets because the candidate who was bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs didn't get in.
The same people who go on anti Globalisation demos are now kicking off because the Globalisation candidate didn`t get in.
The same people who have been demanding `change` and an `end` to corrupt politicians are now terrified because Trump is `not a politician.`
Most people are shocked by this result because they really haven`t been paying any attention- many people could see this coming a mile off -
The reason so many people are shocked is because they are stuck on Facebook and Twitter getting a repetitive loop of similar information from their friends
and getting their information from BBC News and The Guardian and all the rest of the bought and paid for global media.
We live in a world where its never been easier to get hardore information from people seriously boned up on things and complete alternative
opinions to the mainstream spoon fed garbage- and all I see is people posting up Guardian shite like `Johnny Marr on 10 reasons we simply MUST stop Trump.`
Its a complete controlled echo chamber and you need to get your head out of it.
Its funny- people watch dystopian films like 1984 and Faranheit 451 and they always like to assume that if such a situation
existed then they would be the person on the outside, they would be the rebel who could see what was going on. Well here
we are right in the middle of a crazymaking dystopia like something out of a 60`s science fiction novel and people are all
blind to it.
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1. Re: Trump (Brendan Quinn)
2. Re: Trump (Paul Owens)
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:16:10 +1300
From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
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That said, as Obama pointed out, the peaceful transition from one president to another - no matter how much they disagree - is the hallmark of democracy.
BULLSHIT! Stop buying into platitudes and dead metaphors?and READ WHAT YOU JUST WROTE. So the most laudable act of a democratic citizen is to ensure the peaceful transition of power from one despot to another?!
Obama?s a fucking joke, he?s flushed the US Constitution down the shitter and here you are lapping up his GOBSHITE DRIVEL.
The GroupThink / meme replication going on is beyond a fucking joke for a group of supposed counter-culture / free thinkers / subversives / whatever?I?m so sick of this false fucking narrative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_Plebs
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Tribunus plebis, rendered in English as tribune of the plebs, tribune of the people, or plebeian tribune, was the first office of the Roman state that was open to the ...
The checks and balances on power have utterly gone down the gurgler, how anyone in the US could mention they?re a journalist without blushing is totally beyond me.
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Yes - Margaret Thatcher promised to bring unity where there was discord, Dubya's speech in 2000 was similarly reconciliatory. So it's standard stuff.
That said, as Obama pointed out, the peaceful transition from one president to another - no matter how much they disagree - is the hallmark of democracy. So, much as I regret the result, and its likely impact on America and the rest of the world, it's democracy folks. Just gotta work harder to make the world a better place - more intelligent and more informed, more thoughtful, kinder. Most of us can't be Mandela, MLK, etc, but we all have the opportunity to make the world a bit better tomorrow than it is today.
But yeah, I'm ashamed of the bigotry, hatred, & narrow-mindedness that's been tapped into and legitimised.
Jamie
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Thank you, Alex, for brilliantly summing up how I feel. Most victors give those reconciliatory sort of acceptance speeches. I don't think they mean much. The morally-bankrupt thundercunt's ego will be through the White House roof. What did he have to do to lose? This election would have been more dignified if the respective parties had put up an actual donkey and elephant as candidates. I don't understand people anymore. Brexit was embarrassing but this has... well, Trumped it. The ancient Chinese could never have imagined times so "interesting". So many Killing Joke lyrics come to mind I don't know which one to quote. We're fucked. Democracy: ya foired! On 11/9/16, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net> > wrote: > I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the Gathering, > but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I am > incalculably ashamed to be an American today. > > Regardless of your stance on policy -- not that T
rump ever actually > discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could spend five minutes > listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to string coherent > sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold the most powerful > office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY > COMPREHENSION. > > If you think he's a champion for the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING > yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about you, and that will doubtlessly become > obvious in short, catastrophic order. > > > > If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington -----> You are a > fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like putting a lit > firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things up? You betcha. > Is it going to fix anything? NOPE. > > The message we are sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that > racism, antisemitism, proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white > supremacist ideals, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, the dim
inishment of a > woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement of violence, > avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change denial and > creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY. > > If you're an American who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have > nothing but my undying contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive you, > because I sure as FUCK will not. > > I have many friends who are striving to make sense of this and espousing > messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize that's the correct > thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find solace and comfort in > the words and actions of the many like minds, but I AM NOT THERE YET. > NOWHERE CLOSE. > > Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New Yorker, I have never had a great amount > of faith in my fellow American, because I am inherently a smug fucking snob, > and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!! Trump > doesn't give fuck about the concerns of the American
heartland's working > families. They were exploited and manipulated by his slavish appeals to the > lowest common denominator. > > It's simply pathetic. I am sickened to the very core. > > FUCK YOU, America. > > -Alex in NYC- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christophe Barry >> Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump >> >> F*ckin? ada >> >> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:bounces at misera.net> > on behalf of andreas misera >> via Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> > >> R?pondre ? : andreas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de <mailto:andreasmisera at yahoo.de> >, "A list about all >> things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> > >> Date : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 09:58 >> ? : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> > >> Cc : andr
eas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de <mailto:andreasmisera at yahoo.de> >, "jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com> " >> <jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com> > >> Objet : Re: [kj] Trump >> >> Germans could say "Ach Du Schei?e" about that result. >> >> >> Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com> > schrieb am 12:44 Mittwoch, 9.November 2016: >> >> >> That's an "English" way of putting it!! >> >> Other words considered could be >> >> Gosh >> Golly >> my Lord! >> Steady on old chap! >> >> >> >> What a day Gatherers. What a day. >> >> >> On 9 Nov 2016, at 09:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> > >> wrote: >> >>> Blimey. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net> >>> https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathe
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Well thanks for enlightening us Brendan. It's refreshing to hear a calm and
reasoned criticism of HC - most of her critics come across as patronising
angry wee dicks.
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 at 10:04 Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
So you?re all for the candidate who handed top level classified intel to
every govt / terrorist / hacker group in the world on a silver platter,
lied through her teeth about it, deleted emails after being subpoenaed, was
fed questions in advance by a complicit media (and to my knowledge was
never confronted with the fact by a single journalist; all attention going
to uber-victim Donna Brazille, who?s ?used to being persecuted, as a
Christian woman? ? poor thing, what the six-figure salary?), is married to
quite likely serial rapist Bill Clinton who (innocently, I?m sure) visited
Epstein?s pedo island 26 times (standing down Secret Service at least five
times), and FUCKING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.
*Arkancide* clusters of people committing suicide by shooting themselves in
the back of the head twice?(and similar) surrounding the Clintons (small
calibre point-blank headshot being the signature assassin hit), crushing
the life out of themselves with barbells, on and on?couple this year I
believe.
*James Foster*
How long have you spent looking into this stuff?
The US mainstream media are a fucking joke; your email is symptomatic of
buying their bullshit hook line and sinker. The coverage of this election
was one of the most embarrassing, blatant demonstrations of shameless
bullshittery it?s been my misfortune to observe. Utterly fucking
intolerable.
All you MSM victims in the UK are STILL totally fucking clueless about
Brexit.
MSM victims in the US TOTALLY FUCKING CLUELESS about Trump, despite the
salutary lesson of Brexit.
For the love of God, *TURN THE FUCKING IDIOT BOX OFF*.
*From:* Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *Alex
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*Sent:* Thursday, 10 November 2016 10:31 a.m.
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*Subject:* Re: [kj] Trump
I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the
Gathering, but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I am
incalculably ashamed to be an American today.
Regardless of your stance on policy -- not that Trump ever actually
discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could spend five minutes
listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to string coherent
sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold the most powerful
office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY
COMPREHENSION.
If you think he's a champion for the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING
yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about you, and that will doubtlessly become
obvious in short, catastrophic order.
If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington -----> You are a
fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like putting a lit
firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things up? You
betcha. Is it going to fix anything? NOPE.
The message we are sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that
racism, antisemitism, proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white
supremacist ideals, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, the diminishment of a
woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement of violence,
avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change denial and
creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY.
If you're an American who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have
nothing but my undying contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive
you, because I sure as FUCK will not.
I have many friends who are striving to make sense of this and espousing
messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize that's the correct
thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find solace and comfort in
the words and actions of the many like minds, but I AM NOT THERE YET.
NOWHERE CLOSE.
Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New Yorker, I have never had a great amount
of faith in my fellow American, because I am inherently a smug fucking
snob, and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!!
Trump doesn't give fuck about the concerns of the American heartland's
working families. They were exploited and manipulated by his slavish
appeals to the lowest common denominator.
It's simply pathetic. I am sickened to the very core.
FUCK YOU, America.
-Alex in NYC-
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From: Christophe Barry
Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
F*ckin? ada
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Germans could say "Ach Du Schei?e" about that result.
Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> schrieb am 12:44 Mittwoch, 9.November 2016:
That's an "English" way of putting it!!
Other words considered could be
Gosh
Golly
my Lord!
Steady on old chap!
What a day Gatherers. What a day.
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Blimey.
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