[kj] Trump

Thu Nov 10 05:52:10 EST 2016

I don't disagree 100% but all I read is that they were both as bad as each other blah blah... Yet none of the people that say this offer a viable alternative to the historical parties that have hogged power for as long as I can remember. The only ones that seem to come up with electable alternatives are leaning to the right with all the nastiness that comes with right wing politics.

The election wasn't about what e-mail was sent or which woman was groped, for me it was about the kind of message is sent to the world when you elect someone who is openly racist and bigoted, it tells you that the majority are racist and bigoted. Same with Brexshit.

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From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Paul Owens <powens at gmail.com>
Sent: 10 November 2016 10:16
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Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

Well thanks for enlightening us Brendan. It's refreshing to hear a calm and reasoned criticism of HC  - most of her critics come across as patronising angry wee dicks.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 at 10:04 Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz<mailto:bq at soundgardener.co.nz>> wrote:

So you’re all for the candidate who handed top level classified intel to every govt / terrorist / hacker group in the world on a silver platter, lied through her teeth about it, deleted emails after being subpoenaed, was fed questions in advance by a complicit media (and to my knowledge was never confronted with the fact by a single journalist; all attention going to uber-victim Donna Brazille, who’s “used to being persecuted, as a Christian woman” – poor thing, what the six-figure salary…), is married to quite likely serial rapist Bill Clinton who (innocently, I’m sure) visited Epstein’s pedo island 26 times (standing down Secret Service at least five times), and FUCKING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.

Arkancide clusters of people committing suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head twice…(and similar) surrounding the Clintons (small calibre point-blank headshot being the signature assassin hit), crushing the life out of themselves with barbells, on and on…couple this year I believe.

James Foster

How long have you spent looking into this stuff?

The US mainstream media are a fucking joke; your email is symptomatic of buying their bullshit hook line and sinker. The coverage of this election was one of the most embarrassing, blatant demonstrations of shameless bullshittery it’s been my misfortune to observe. Utterly fucking intolerable.

All you MSM victims in the UK are STILL totally fucking clueless about Brexit.

MSM victims in the US TOTALLY FUCKING CLUELESS about Trump, despite the salutary lesson of Brexit.

For the love of God, TURN THE FUCKING IDIOT BOX OFF.

From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net<mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2016 10:31 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the Gathering, but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I am incalculably ashamed to be an American today.

Regardless of your stance on policy -- not that Trump ever actually discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could spend five minutes listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to string coherent sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold the most powerful office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION.

If you think he's a champion for the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about you, and that will doubtlessly become obvious in short, catastrophic order.

If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington -----> You are a fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like putting a lit firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things up? You betcha. Is it going to fix anything? NOPE.

The message we are sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that racism, antisemitism, proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white supremacist ideals, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, the diminishment of a woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement of violence, avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change denial and creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY.

If you're an American who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have nothing but my undying contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive you, because I sure as FUCK will not.

I have many friends who are striving to make sense of this and espousing messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize that's the correct thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find solace and comfort in the words and actions of the many like minds, but I AM NOT THERE YET. NOWHERE CLOSE.

Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New Yorker, I have never had a great amount of faith in my fellow American, because I am inherently a smug fucking snob, and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!! Trump doesn't give fuck about the concerns of the American heartland's working families. They were exploited and manipulated by his slavish appeals to the lowest common denominator.

It's simply pathetic. I am sickened to the very core.

FUCK YOU, America.

-Alex in NYC-

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From: Christophe Barry
Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

F*ckin’ ada

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Germans could say "Ach Du Scheiße" about that result.

Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com<mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>> schrieb am 12:44 Mittwoch, 9.November 2016:

That's an "English" way of putting it!!

Other words considered could be

Gosh

Golly

my Lord!

Steady on old chap!

What a day Gatherers. What a day.

On 9 Nov 2016, at 09:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:

Blimey.

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