[kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME

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I think there are glimpses of it (Ghosts, ESS, In Cythera) but I don't think that they will ever recapture where they were in those years - no one can turn back the clock.


In terms of who, or what, was missing, yes, I think that the main loss was Big Paul rather than Raven or Youth (sorry, fellas), but I don't think that it's as easy as pointing at the contributions of individual members.  I think the group had some special thing going on at that point - explain it however you wish - and once it was broken, it wasn't just a question of re-assembling the personnel.


Jamie



-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:01
Subject: Re: [kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME


 
Is it a more refined sound now that the 'missing pieces' are back though Jamie?  
   
  
  
The only missing member from the equation was Big Paul.  They went through the whole 'chugga-shout' sound throughout both Youth as well as Raven as bassist.    
  
   
  
  
The refined sound that was developed in the early to mid 80s was during Ravens tenure during and after Fire Dances.  The metal sound was during both Raven and Youth's tenure...so is it Big Paul that also has dabbled in metal (albeit with other bands) that is attempting to refine the output again?  
  
   
  
  
   
  
 
 
  
  
On 9 March 2015 at 09:40, fatpotanga    <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:   
   
    
On 7 Mar 2015, at 13:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <     gathering at misera.net> wrote:     
     
      
       
        
        
         …. from Extremities onwards, that magical combination seems to have faded away.  Not entirely - there's been the occasional track since - but there's been too much growling from Jaz, too much chugging from Geordie, not enough of the funky dance ethic, not enough of the guitar that sounds like "a thousand orchestras playing at once", ..        
       
       
      
     
     
Bang on Jamie.     
     
They got stuck in a metal route of "chugga-chugga-SHOOOOOOOUT!”     
     
Big Paul and Youth - the missing pieces are back, it’s refined the sound and is becoming something more akin to Killing Joke of yore.     
     
Each release with the original line up far outshine the last few prior to it and each new release (IMO) gets stronger and stronger. Yes there’s still the odd chugga-chugga-SHOOOOOOOUT, but presumably they’re to keep the chugga-chugga-SHOOOOOOOUT fans of the last few years happy?     
     
Anyway, I am back to feeling optimistic and excited about each new release than indifferent.     
     
They feel fresh again.     
    
    
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