[kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

[Paul Rangecroft]

Yes, you're right, Peter. Interesting photos you sent through. Hope
you live long enough to complete your journeys, outer and inner.

On 10/25/14, P West <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes, but now is 2014 , we are all no longer school kids seeking mentors and
> an alternative life . "Follow yourselves as leaders" was the message , if
> you are still looking for KJ to provide you with answers, then you
> completely missed the point . If you are seeking the innocent , teenage
> carefree days of 1982 in KJs music, you wont find it, because everyones
> moved on  .    KJ are no longer obscure young men offering an alternative,
> they are now granddads who keep on rocking , which is something that we
> should all accept and appreciate .
>
>> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 15:42:50 +0100
>> From: paul.rangecroft at gmail.com
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
>>
>> Nice to see the list spring to life, even if it is OTG again, which
>> seems to come 'round as regularly as a comet or meteor shower.
>>
>> I agree with what Jamie says below. I would add that I think every
>> time Jaz's ego has got the better of him and the band have split the
>> next incarnation has lost something. The first three albums have a
>> quality that they never quite captured again.
>>
>> I wonder if Geordie wrote all the guitar riffs for OTG? I suspect
>> maybe Jaz wrote SOJA. I think BTATS had more Jaz influence than
>> previous albums and that was the start of them breaking apart.
>>
>> On 10/24/14, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Despite some great gigs, some great songs, and even some impressive
>> > albums,
>> > I don't think KJ have ever been a band after OTG in the way that they
>> > were
>> > before OTG.  I think I *believed* that they were during the Extremities
>> > period (and yes, the gigs were great, etc etc), but something had been
>> > lost
>> > that was never regained.
>> >
>> >
>> > I suspect that the thing that drove Killing Joke in the period 1979-1988
>> > was
>> > the tension between Jaz and Big Paul.  I also suspect that the latter
>> > had a
>> > clearer vision of what the band was trying to achieve, and that without
>> > him
>> > it ended up in a mess of, well, whatever Jaz's latest theory was.
>> >
>> >
>> > In terms of OTG itself, I've never really accepted that it "should"
>> > have
>> > been a Jaz solo album.  Rather, I think that was the problem - that it
>> > *became* a Jaz solo album, without the influence of Big Paul (and to a
>> > lesser extent, Raven).
>> >
>> >
>> > I like some of the tracks on OTG, and can easily imagine much better
>> > and
>> > more compelling versions of them.  But the comment at the time about
>> > the
>> > lyrics being "what I did on my holidays, by Jeremy Coleman aged 6" was
>> > all
>> > too accurate.  (Actually, I felt that KJ progressively lost their
>> > lyrical
>> > bite after Revelations.  Increasingly too wordy, too explicit.)
>> >
>> >
>> > The various members of the Joke are extremely talented, creative, and
>> > intelligent, and as such will continue to perform amazing gigs and will
>> > continue to compose *some* great tracks.  But the magic that used to be
>> > there is long gone.
>> >
>> >
>> > Jamie
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