[kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

[adrianwason at btinternet.com]

yes M8,thanks for the compliment!!
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>From : fluke1 at live.co.uk
Date : 25/10/2014 - 20:20 (GMTDT)
To : gathering at misera.net
Subject : Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
Ade, I quite like the song "Tihuanaco" , maybe its because I have similar experiences , even as a man of limited intelligence, Im sure that you can appreciate this
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:40:41 +0100
> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
> 
> I disagree massively with you Paul about the first 3 albums, yes they had a quality but I believe this has been seen again many times!Isn't OTG great as it's so controversial!-Still love it to bits apart from Tihuanaco-nice to see you're still lurking!
> 
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> From : paul.rangecroft at gmail.com
> Date : 25/10/2014 - 15:42 (GMTDT)
> To : gathering at misera.net
> Subject : Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
> 
> Nice to see the list spring to life, even if it is OTG again, which
> seems to come 'round as regularly as a comet or meteor shower.
> 
> I agree with what Jamie says below. I would add that I think every
> time Jaz's ego has got the better of him and the band have split the
> next incarnation has lost something. The first three albums have a
> quality that they never quite captured again.
> 
> I wonder if Geordie wrote all the guitar riffs for OTG? I suspect
> maybe Jaz wrote SOJA. I think BTATS had more Jaz influence than
> previous albums and that was the start of them breaking apart.
> 
> On 10/24/14, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
> >
> > Despite some great gigs, some great songs, and even some impressive albums,
> > I don't think KJ have ever been a band after OTG in the way that they were
> > before OTG.  I think I *believed* that they were during the Extremities
> > period (and yes, the gigs were great, etc etc), but something had been lost
> > that was never regained.
> >
> >
> > I suspect that the thing that drove Killing Joke in the period 1979-1988 was
> > the tension between Jaz and Big Paul.  I also suspect that the latter had a
> > clearer vision of what the band was trying to achieve, and that without him
> > it ended up in a mess of, well, whatever Jaz's latest theory was.
> >
> >
> > In terms of OTG itself, I've never really accepted that it "should" have
> > been a Jaz solo album.  Rather, I think that was the problem - that it
> > *became* a Jaz solo album, without the influence of Big Paul (and to a
> > lesser extent, Raven).
> >
> >
> > I like some of the tracks on OTG, and can easily imagine much better and
> > more compelling versions of them.  But the comment at the time about the
> > lyrics being "what I did on my holidays, by Jeremy Coleman aged 6" was all
> > too accurate.  (Actually, I felt that KJ progressively lost their lyrical
> > bite after Revelations.  Increasingly too wordy, too explicit.)
> >
> >
> > The various members of the Joke are extremely talented, creative, and
> > intelligent, and as such will continue to perform amazing gigs and will
> > continue to compose *some* great tracks.  But the magic that used to be
> > there is long gone.
> >
> >
> > Jamie
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