[kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

Ha!  Tiahuanaco is easily my favourite track on OTG!






-----Original Message-----
From: adrianwason <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:40
Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG


I disagree massively with you Paul about the first 3 albums, yes they had a 
quality but I believe this has been seen again many times!Isn't OTG great as 
it's so controversial!-Still love it to bits apart from Tihuanaco-nice to see 
you're still lurking!

----Original message----
From : paul.rangecroft at gmail.com
Date : 25/10/2014 - 15:42 (GMTDT)
To : gathering at misera.net
Subject : Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

Nice to see the list spring to life, even if it is OTG again, which
seems to come 'round as regularly as a comet or meteor shower.

I agree with what Jamie says below. I would add that I think every
time Jaz's ego has got the better of him and the band have split the
next incarnation has lost something. The first three albums have a
quality that they never quite captured again.

I wonder if Geordie wrote all the guitar riffs for OTG? I suspect
maybe Jaz wrote SOJA. I think BTATS had more Jaz influence than
previous albums and that was the start of them breaking apart.

On 10/24/14, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>
> Despite some great gigs, some great songs, and even some impressive albums,
> I don't think KJ have ever been a band after OTG in the way that they were
> before OTG.  I think I *believed* that they were during the Extremities
> period (and yes, the gigs were great, etc etc), but something had been lost
> that was never regained.
>
>
> I suspect that the thing that drove Killing Joke in the period 1979-1988 was
> the tension between Jaz and Big Paul.  I also suspect that the latter had a
> clearer vision of what the band was trying to achieve, and that without him
> it ended up in a mess of, well, whatever Jaz's latest theory was.
>
>
> In terms of OTG itself, I've never really accepted that it "should" have
> been a Jaz solo album.  Rather, I think that was the problem - that it
> *became* a Jaz solo album, without the influence of Big Paul (and to a
> lesser extent, Raven).
>
>
> I like some of the tracks on OTG, and can easily imagine much better and
> more compelling versions of them.  But the comment at the time about the
> lyrics being "what I did on my holidays, by Jeremy Coleman aged 6" was all
> too accurate.  (Actually, I felt that KJ progressively lost their lyrical
> bite after Revelations.  Increasingly too wordy, too explicit.)
>
>
> The various members of the Joke are extremely talented, creative, and
> intelligent, and as such will continue to perform amazing gigs and will
> continue to compose *some* great tracks.  But the magic that used to be
> there is long gone.
>
>
> Jamie
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