[kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

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Fri Oct 24 00:56:37 EDT 2014


"Cheese" and "knob" are VERY hard to combine in a sentence without evoking
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From: The Stranger via Gathering 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
Sent: Fri, Oct 24, 2014, 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

I have to agree with FP here.  The songwriting on OTG is really solid.  The
atmospheres evoked are really eerie and otherworldly.  One thing I love is
the weird vocal melodies with notes that are miles apart on the scale..  
Could the cheese knob have been turned down a few notches on some of the
keyboards?  Yes.
Stay One Jump Ahead (extended mix) is definitely the worst.  Possibly even
the worst thing that has ever happened.  In the world.  Ever.  
Killing Joke - Stay One Jump Ahead (extended mix)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD3m0DLYXsY)
	 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD3m0DLYXsY)
	Killing Joke - Stay One Jump Ahead (extended mix)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD3m0DLYXsY)
	View on www.youtube.com (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD3m0DLYXsY)
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That rap!  Like getting slapped in the face with a rotten fish.  Here's a
sample of the rap relating to Geordie's guitar playing "the sound fer
sound, resounding into yer brain, ya know, so you can never run away, he
pumpin like a train!  Chifity chaff, but I'm a goin' down the track,
because I do what I feel, because he never takes slack!!"  wtf?  Also, I
just never need to hear the words "the posse in da house" on a Killing Joke
record..  Ever.  
It reminds me of a time that I met Jaz outside of the NYC bar where
gatherers were meeting before the show.  Jaz's young nephew was there
filming and interviewing gatherers and the way he was speaking was as if he
were a hardcore rapper straight outta Compton.  At one point Jaz turned to
him and screamed "....WHY ARE YOU TALKING LIKE A BLACK PERSON?!?!?!?!" 
hahahahahaaaa!!!
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  From: fatpotanga 
 To: The Gathering ((the band!))  
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
at the risk of being buried up to my neck and stoned, I quite like most of
OTG. 
Yes, it’s all a bit cheesy and naffly produced, but the actual musical
structures and lyrics are great. It’s just not been very well done. 
It has dated horribly though.

Unto the Ends I absolutely love, especially the lyrics and progressions are
fantastic. 
It’s a shame it was never what it was intended to be; a Jaz Coleman solo
album as a lot of the ideas are pretty solid. Like I said, it’s just been
badly executed. 
I’d love to hear a lot of OTG reworked, but it’ll never happen.
Still, without OTG, EDAVRE to where they are now would never have happened.
For me by far the worst track off it is on the CD version: Stay One Jump
Ahead extended mix with Jaz’s embarrassing dad rapping.
Quite possibly the worst Killing Joke song EVER produced.
Ironically, the opening guitar riff is one of Geordies best.
For me Democracy is the most disappointing/least played.
On 23 Oct 2014, at 09:27, Brendan Quinn  wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfI8vtuj9vM
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfI8vtuj9vM) sounds like Sting and Peter
Gabriel having a wank in a biscuit tin. 
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