[kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

[bq at soundgardener.co.nz]

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>From: Pagan <scotgothwitch at sky.com>
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>Sent: Fri, Oct 24, 2014, 5:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
>
>My god, Gatherers ‎are mellowing with age! ;)
>
>Claire
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>  Original Message  
>From: Alexander Smith
>Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:17
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Reply To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
>
>For me, up until OTG, every Killing Joke record had been glorious (though I must admit I had my misgivings at first about BTATS, although those quibbles were blown out of the water later on when that album was compared to later records). OTG was indeed incredibly frustrating (“America” is a far worse single than “Me Or You,” I don’t care what you say). But, there was still something there that was intriguing. I mean, say what you will about it, but they were at least branching out and trying something else.
>
>For me, the least-listened to KJ album remains HOSANNAS.
>
>Alex in NYC
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>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I actually do not mind OTG either, yep the keyboards and production
>> definitely have dated, but I concur with Fatpotanga the musical
>> structures and lyrics are great, and just to add so is Jaz's vocals.
>> 
>> At the time of release *if* it would have gone ahead a planned as a
>> Jaz Coleman project rather than forced by E'G into being released as a
>> Killing Joke album then perhaps it would have been better received
>> alongside Songs From The Victorious City.
>> 
>> For me also personally Democracy is the biggest mess songwise and
>> least played KJ album. I would sooner listen to Tiahuanaco, Unto The
>> Ends Of The Earth, Outside The Gate rather than Medicine Wheel,
>> Another Bloody Election and Prozac People any day of the week.
>> 
>> On 23 October 2014 10:11, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
>>> There’s something disturbingly Labyrinth soundtrack about 0:41 – 1:12 of
>>> Unto the Ends, tell me I’m wrong (and don’t ask how I could possibly know
>>> that…)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jaz as Jared in Labyrinth – now that would have been epic. Class of 1986
>>> would have needed serious therapy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To be honest, I was mainly posting because I found that biscuit tin comment
>>> so funny. Unto the Ends is probably one of the better tracks off OTG
>>> *shudders*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of
>>> fatpotanga
>>> Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2014 9:49 p.m.
>>> To: The Gathering ((the band!))
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> at the risk of being buried up to my neck and stoned, I quite like most of
>>> OTG.
>>> 
>>> Yes, it’s all a bit cheesy and naffly produced, but the actual musical
>>> structures and lyrics are great. It’s just not been very well done.
>>> 
>>> It has dated horribly though.
>>> 
>>> Unto the Ends I absolutely love, especially the lyrics and progressions are
>>> fantastic.
>>> 
>>> It’s a shame it was never what it was intended to be; a Jaz Coleman solo
>>> album as a lot of the ideas are pretty solid. Like I said, it’s just been
>>> badly executed.
>>> 
>>> I’d love to hear a lot of OTG reworked, but it’ll never happen.
>>> 
>>> Still, without OTG, EDAVRE to where they are now would never have happened.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For me by far the worst track off it is on the CD version: Stay One Jump
>>> Ahead extended mix with Jaz’s embarrassing dad rapping.
>>> 
>>> Quite possibly the worst Killing Joke song EVER produced.
>>> 
>>> Ironically, the opening guitar riff is one of Geordies best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For me Democracy is the most disappointing/least played.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2014, at 09:27, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfI8vtuj9vM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> sounds like Sting and Peter Gabriel having a wank in a biscuit tin.
>>> 
>>> 
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