[kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig

[adrianwason at btinternet.com]

when i first met Jaz at that Holland Park Lecture i thought he had a bad attitude to Raven, he said bung him(Raven) £XGrand and he'll be here.
 
That suprised me even after the OTG episode
 
Raven had a double page in MM/NME/Sounds Fuck me if i can remember but there was a photo of Raven with a pool ball ?in his hand-saying he would step on Jaz
 
So they were still high profile in the late 80s when they were doing fuc all


--- On Wed, 10/4/13, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:


From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, 10 April, 2013, 22:09




Awwww c'mon Jon. 
They've all been twats at one time. 

On 10 Apr 2013, at 21:39, jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:







Youth has always been better in my book, he never let the band down.Unlike Raven.



 
 






Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:29:34 +0100
From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig






and me I have the greatest respect for Youth.
Whenever Raven came on stage though he would immediately find some sort of confrontation with someone in the mosh, it really did add an edge.
less so after he'd been with muppettry and shitface

--- On Wed, 10/4/13, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, 10 April, 2013, 20:56








I do miss the live presence of Raven. I have nothing but the greatest respect for Youth, but Raven seemed to give proceedings an extra boot through the uprights. Miss that.


Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: adrianwason at btinternet.com 
Sent: Apr 10, 2013 3:46 PM 
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was it Jaz who said that the most striking thing about a killing joke gig was the reaction of the crowd to their music-or words to that effect...
in the mosh pit this has got more muted every year and at its worst at the Forum gig.
taking Rob's point if I had written songs like darkness before dawn/struggle/nightime/solitude/termite mound/for the love of the masses/judas goat/universe b/fresh fever/depth charge/colony collapse/poleshift etc -i would want to play these every night, but to my knowledge they've never even played 4 of these songs live.
 
To me now Killing Joke have become 2 bands-the studio band peerless writing songs like colony collapse/poleshift in their 33rd? year and after the singles tour the live band which needs a nudge.
 
I thought the gig I saw on the 2012 tour in Bristol was really good, some of the gigs on the Absolute Dissent tour were good such as the Fleece and Rock City but you have to go back to 2005 in my opinion to say that they were really on it with Raven and Benny.
 
I'd like to see Jah Wobble play gigs with Killing Joke. The only time I've seen him it blew my mind at the Astoria 2 playing for the Damage Manual.Ok he did spend most of the gig sitting on a sofa with his back to the audience but he added an extra dimension which made up for that Scottish Wanker
 
 
 

--- On Wed, 10/4/13, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, 10 April, 2013, 18:52








I get the feeling "Asteroid" would be a lot of fun to play ... but i think it could stand to be retired for a little while (just my opinion, mind you).


Alex in NYC



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From: fatpotanga 
Sent: Apr 10, 2013 1:49 PM 
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On 10 Apr 2013, at 16:21, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

"This World Hell" is a bad song. There, i said it.



Couldn't agree more, shame as there's that really great bit in it.
I wonder if they just like playing it. I can imagine it being fun to play.
 

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