[kj] OT: The origins of goth?

[sade1]

Like!     <---- *pfft!*

He was born to see 2000 years...



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 From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net> 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The origins of goth?
 
All wrong, in some cases by up to 2000 years.

Jesus was more Goth than you.

- he is referred to as Lord Jesus.
- he was into fishnet.
- he went to dens of iniquity.
- he had the gaunt look down.
- he was big on crucifixes.
- he was into body piercing.
- he was fascinated with the occult.
- he spent time in tombs.
- he was secretly a vampire.
- he was obsessed with Death.

http://thejesusquestion.org/2012/01/03/tee-time-jesus-was-more-goth-than-you
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Peter Moltesen
Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012 9:45 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The origins of goth?

Ever seen Nic Roeg's film of 'Glastonbury Fayre' from 1971?
Arthur Brown & Kingdom Come's set surely qualifies as proto goth 

Peter


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
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Sent: 22 November 2012 20:19
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cathy.hawkes/bands1.htm

i saw > atomic rooster < live in germoney in 1971 with vincent crane, john
du cann and paul hammond.
all dressed in black they played the songs from the album > death walks
behind you <.
sadly they are all gone now.

wolfi

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> Datum: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:30:28 +0100

> Von: Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com>

> An: "A list about all things Killing Joke \\(the band!\\)"

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> Betreff: Re: [kj] OT: The origins of goth?



>     OK...

>     And following on to that:

>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_rock

>     (WHAT? The Doors?!?!)

> 

>     But nothing between 1967 (counting The Doors) / 1968 (Glass House

Family)

> and Joy Division?

> 

> 

> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.19 skrev wessidetempest .:

> 

> > Just to get everyone riled up

> > 

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture

> > 

> > On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:17 AM, "Per G Olsson"

> <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

> > 

> >>     Yep, I know that the term is extremely widely used.

> >>     Sticking my neck out as little as possible I'd say that Sisters of

> Mercy and Bauhaus fully fits my expectations of "goth".

> >>     Also early Specimen, a bit of Joy Division, early Clan of Xymox 

> >> etc

> etc...

> >>     

> >> 

> >> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.07 skrev wessidetempest .:

> >> 

> >>> I guess it depends on what you consider goth. For example there 

> >>> are

> metal bands that are considered. And from my opinion it's only because

they

> dress the part. 

> >>> 

> >>> On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:02 AM, "Per G Olsson"

> <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

> >>> 

> >>>>     As the list pretty quiet at the moment (strange considering that 

> >>>> Jaz

> & Youth apparently are releasing stuff and and a KJ single is 

> supposedly due soon) I'd thought I ask a "simple" question...

> >>>> 

> >>>>     Anyone out there who has a good idea on tracking the roots of

> "goth"?

> >>>> 

> >>>>     As with the term "punk" there are many different views on what 

> >>>> bands

> to include, but I hope that among KJ fans there are quite a few that 

> also listens to a lot of "goth".

> >>>> 

> >>>>     The reason I ask is that I stumbled on this track by The Glass

> Family from 1968 (http://youtu.be/q_pIiQUIZoA), which in my ears 

> sounds

quite

> "gothic".

> >>>>     The rest of what The Glass Family released has very little

> resemblance to "goth" (in my humble ears) so it seems to be a one off.

> >>>>     Never heard any other 60:s track that sounds so "gothic", but 

> >>>> please

> feel free to enlighten me if there are others!

> >>>> 

> >>>> 

> >>>>     /Per

> >>>> 

> >>>> 

> >>>>     (Cue "It started in the UX" "No, it began in the UY", where X 

> >>>> and Y

> equals K or S depending on who starts)

> >>>> 

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