[kj] OT: Ministry

[Dominico C]

Yeah, I have to admit, Ministry went down hill since Filth Pig, and Paul 
Barker left... I pretty much sold some of my Ministry collection, times have 
changed for me...


"With all due respect to the faithful departed (and I'm not sure how
much input Raven had in the later Ministry albums), Ministry stopped
making listenable albums circa FILTH PIG (and that's being charitable)."
Alex in NYC


On Mar 28, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Simon Abinett wrote:


> I am still holding out for the cd to arrive before listening in full

> but i have heard the majority of each track and really like !

>  The new Ministry cd arrived in my hands yesterday - what a load of

> shit that is , after listening to that you realise just how

> brilliant the new Joke material truly is .

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: MMXII first listen (Bob Barathy)
   2. Re: MMXII out before Down by the River? (Alexander Smith)
   3. Re: MMXII out before Down by the River? (Alexander Smith)
   4. Re: MMXII first listen (Alexander Smith)
   5. New Album - Now on Spotify (Phillipps, Marc)


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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:38:11 +0100
From: "Bob Barathy" <bbarathy at btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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Really!? I think this album could well be their best since Extremities
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Behalf Of jon chapman
  Sent: 28 March 2012 11:58
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  I think it's fair to say that MMXII is not as good as Absolute Dissent.



























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  From: gregslawson at msn.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:43:20 -0400
  Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen


  You're right about similarites of some new songs to older ones (like the
Glitch part taken from Intravenous/Majestic) but you'll see w/many bands
that have been around for a while that they repeat
  themselves. Even amazing songwriters like the guys from Husker Du (check
'em out if you weren't around the US underground scene in the mid 80s) or
the Minutemen were repeating themselves on their last couple of albums.



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  Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:09:17 +0200
  From: spooman at freenet.de
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen

  Thanks for the links and the nice way of pointing out that there might be
one. "Anyone feeling ambitious can check Bunalti, Torrentzap, Bitsnoop etc.
and let us know what they find." hehehe.
  Not to worry, although I haven't preordered it yet, I'll buy the
Single(s), Vinyl and CD - and shall do so quite happily. I  like the gloomy
EDVREish atmosphere of "Pole Shift", "Fema Camp" and "Corporate Elect".
"Trance" is the only one, that hasn't had any effect on me so far and
"Colony Collapse" and Glitch would be other favs.
  I'm very fond of the different atmos The Joke create on every single
album - I think they really rock in a dark way on MMXII - but I'll have to
admit that I'm a bit dissapointed by a certain sloppiness songwriting-wise.
That one part of "Glitch" is very similar to "Majestic" AND "Intravenous",
isn't it? And "Corporate Elect" isn't really something entirely different
from "MINOG". I like them nevertheless...
  Isn't it funny, how of all bands the Joke  seem to have no difficulty in
writing erm touching songs on a regular basis, that once would have been
filed under the gruesome term "ballad"? :-)

  Marcel

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:46:01 -0400
From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII out before Down by the River?
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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Good question. What's up with that?

Alex in NYC


On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:45 AM, Per G Olsson wrote:


> Anyone out there who has got the "physical" release of Down by the

> river yet?

>

> Will KJ create yet another historical moment in the music business

> by releasing a new album before the previous one?

>

> /Per

>

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:53:28 -0400
From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII out before Down by the River?
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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By then, of course, there'll be YET ANOTHER "definitive" live album in
the works.

Alex in NYC


On Mar 28, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Rob Moss wrote:


>

> pledge say they are waiting on the CDs and Vinyl to come back from

> the factory.

> They say another 10 days or so anbd then the band need to sign them.

>

> So.................August I think!

>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: Neil Perry

>> Sent: 03/28/12 10:18 AM

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII out before Down by the River?

>>

>> lol

>>

>> Latest word from PledgeMusic is

>>

>> "we understand some of the items are ready to go and there is a

>> slight delay on others".

>>

>>

>> On 28 March 2012 10:45, Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at miljonmysteriet.com

>> > wrote:

>>        Anyone out there who has got the "physical" release of Down

>> by the river yet?

>>

>>        Will KJ create yet another historical moment in the music

>> business by releasing a new album before the previous one?

>>

>>        /Per

>>

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> Pledge sent me a niote

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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:54:29 -0400
From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen
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With all due respect to the faithful departed (and I'm not sure how
much input Raven had in the later Ministry albums), Ministry stopped
making listenable albums circa FILTH PIG (and that's being charitable).

Alex in NYC


On Mar 28, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Simon Abinett wrote:


> I am still holding out for the cd to arrive before listening in full

> but i have heard the majority of each track and really like !

>  The new Ministry cd arrived in my hands yesterday - what a load of

> shit that is , after listening to that you realise just how

> brilliant the new Joke material truly is .

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:58:25 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen

>

>

>

> I think it's fair to say that MMXII is not as good as Absolute

> Dissent.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: gregslawson at msn.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:43:20 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen

>

> You're right about similarites of some new songs to older ones (like

> the Glitch part taken from Intravenous/Majestic) but you'll see w/

> many bands that have been around for a while that they repeat

> themselves. Even amazing songwriters like the guys from Husker Du

> (check 'em out if you weren't around the US underground scene in the

> mid 80s) or the Minutemen were repeating themselves on their last

> couple of albums.

>

> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:09:17 +0200

> From: spooman at freenet.de

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen

>

> Thanks for the links and the nice way of pointing out that there

> might be one. "Anyone feeling ambitious can check Bunalti,

> Torrentzap, Bitsnoop etc. and let us know what they find." hehehe.

> Not to worry, although I haven't preordered it yet, I'll buy the

> Single(s), Vinyl and CD - and shall do so quite happily. I  like the

> gloomy EDVREish atmosphere of "Pole Shift", "Fema Camp" and

> "Corporate Elect". "Trance" is the only one, that hasn't had any

> effect on me so far and "Colony Collapse" and Glitch would be other

> favs.

> I'm very fond of the different atmos The Joke create on every single

> album - I think they really rock in a dark way on MMXII - but I'll

> have to admit that I'm a bit dissapointed by a certain sloppiness

> songwriting-wise. That one part of "Glitch" is very similar to

> "Majestic" AND "Intravenous", isn't it? And "Corporate Elect" isn't

> really something entirely different from "MINOG". I like them

> nevertheless...

> Isn't it funny, how of all bands the Joke  seem to have no

> difficulty in writing erm touching songs on a regular basis, that

> once would have been filed under the gruesome term "ballad"? :-)

>

> Marcel

>

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:02:42 +0100
From: "Phillipps, Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at nclondon.nhs.uk>
Subject: [kj] New Album - Now on Spotify
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Just tweeted:



Killing Joke ? @Killingjokeband <https://twitter.com/#%21/Killingjokeband> 
You can now hear the whole of MMXII over on @spotify 
<https://twitter.com/#%21/spotify> . Have a listen and please share your 
thoughts. Regards. http://t.co/GHADowUB <http://t.co/GHADowUB>



So, anyone who felt uncomfortable downloading the leaked album can now have 
a listen











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