[kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII

Neil Perry 65snoopy at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 19:03:50 EDT 2012


Yes, well put. I just preferred the lyrics when they were vague and
mysterious
and set an atmosphere. Now they seem... very specific!

On 30 March 2012 00:18, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:


> I view songs like 'Fema Camp' as dystopian visions rather than

> reality. That may not be how Jaz indends them but it's the only way I

> can "enjoy" them. Jaz believes what he wants to sometimes. I used to

> wonder why his interviews were so barking when his lyrics seemed so

> profound, now there isn't such a gulf between the two. He predicts the

> end of the world as often as he predicts next year will be the Year of

> the Joke. Neither ever happens. An asteroid probably won't wipe us

> out. The poles probably won't shift. 2012 will go and 2013 will come.

> But it's a mad world and KJ do capture that better than any other band

> and I'm very grateful for that cathartic release. Some of his ideas a

> quite interesting too. There are usually a few gems amid the rubbish.

>

> On 3/29/12, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Heh well said.

> > Jaz is an intelligent man so I find it slightly - what's the word -

> > mystifying? - that

> > he believes this Fema Camp nonsense. The fact is, if you go on

> > YouTube/Google/whatever,

> > as Jaz urges, you can swiftly discover how the whole thing is a crock of

> > shit.

> > The Fema Camp conspiracy theory is one of the more interesting ones in

> > that, as

> > with the fake moon landing conspiracy, the effect seems to be that the

> > bigger and more

> > rediculous the lie is, the more people seem willing to believe it.

> > Of course, when the conspiracy started they were Clinton death camps,

> then

> > Bush death

> > camps, now they are Obama death camps. Funny how all these

> administrations

> > agreed on

> > one thing - we really need lots of death camps!

> > And yet no matter how secret these places are meant to be, people can

> just

> > drive around,

> > film them, put up videos on YouTube and get away with it. Spooky.

> >

> > The video I posted earlier

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

> >

> > is well known, its 17 years old and shows an old train-repair facility

> > which is apparently in

> > the process of being turned into a new Auschwitz. Listen to the

> commentary

> > - along the lines of

> > "This is a big building, it could be used to process prisoners" - and try

> > to keep a straight face.

> > The video was shot by this woman

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Thompson_(attorney)

> >

> > who is, surprise surprise, a bit unhinged. She was disowned by the US

> > militia movement

> > because they thought she was too extreme (she planned an armed march on

> > Washington

> > to put senators on trial for treason).

> >

> > Glenn Beck, of all people, actually debunked the whole thing here - guess

> > what? It actually

> > is a train-repair facility.

> >

> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513024,00.html

> >

> > Popular Mechanics also have their own page on it

> >

> > http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850

> >

> > (see point 3 for the train-repair facility)

> >

> > This features the infamous photo supposed to be a US death/internment

> camp.

> > It is actually

> > a prison camp... in North Korea. If more people got worked up about real

> > death camps instead

> > of imaginary ones, the world might be a better place.

> >

> > Well, it goes on and on, its all out there if you want to read up on it.

> > Sorry but this particular

> > facet of Jaz's paranoia gets on my frigging nerves and I'm pissed off

> that

> > he's clogging up valuable

> > album space with boring songs about it. If it had been a great song, I

> > wouldn't have minded so much.

> >

> > n

> >

> >

> > On 28 March 2012 23:08, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

> >

> >> Ever cheerful Jaz.

> >>

> >> Thing is, he laughs alot too!

> >> A very interesting man - I'm glad he's wrong most of the time!

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

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