[kj] Track-by-track: Killing Joke's Jaz Coleman talks MMXII
Neil Perry
65snoopy at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 19:03:50 EDT 2012
Yes, well put. I just preferred the lyrics when they were vague and
mysterious
and set an atmosphere. Now they seem... very specific!
On 30 March 2012 00:18, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:
> I view songs like 'Fema Camp' as dystopian visions rather than
> reality. That may not be how Jaz indends them but it's the only way I
> can "enjoy" them. Jaz believes what he wants to sometimes. I used to
> wonder why his interviews were so barking when his lyrics seemed so
> profound, now there isn't such a gulf between the two. He predicts the
> end of the world as often as he predicts next year will be the Year of
> the Joke. Neither ever happens. An asteroid probably won't wipe us
> out. The poles probably won't shift. 2012 will go and 2013 will come.
> But it's a mad world and KJ do capture that better than any other band
> and I'm very grateful for that cathartic release. Some of his ideas a
> quite interesting too. There are usually a few gems amid the rubbish.
>
> On 3/29/12, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Heh well said.
> > Jaz is an intelligent man so I find it slightly - what's the word -
> > mystifying? - that
> > he believes this Fema Camp nonsense. The fact is, if you go on
> > YouTube/Google/whatever,
> > as Jaz urges, you can swiftly discover how the whole thing is a crock of
> > shit.
> > The Fema Camp conspiracy theory is one of the more interesting ones in
> > that, as
> > with the fake moon landing conspiracy, the effect seems to be that the
> > bigger and more
> > rediculous the lie is, the more people seem willing to believe it.
> > Of course, when the conspiracy started they were Clinton death camps,
> then
> > Bush death
> > camps, now they are Obama death camps. Funny how all these
> administrations
> > agreed on
> > one thing - we really need lots of death camps!
> > And yet no matter how secret these places are meant to be, people can
> just
> > drive around,
> > film them, put up videos on YouTube and get away with it. Spooky.
> >
> > The video I posted earlier
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4
> >
> > is well known, its 17 years old and shows an old train-repair facility
> > which is apparently in
> > the process of being turned into a new Auschwitz. Listen to the
> commentary
> > - along the lines of
> > "This is a big building, it could be used to process prisoners" - and try
> > to keep a straight face.
> > The video was shot by this woman
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Thompson_(attorney)
> >
> > who is, surprise surprise, a bit unhinged. She was disowned by the US
> > militia movement
> > because they thought she was too extreme (she planned an armed march on
> > Washington
> > to put senators on trial for treason).
> >
> > Glenn Beck, of all people, actually debunked the whole thing here - guess
> > what? It actually
> > is a train-repair facility.
> >
> > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513024,00.html
> >
> > Popular Mechanics also have their own page on it
> >
> > http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850
> >
> > (see point 3 for the train-repair facility)
> >
> > This features the infamous photo supposed to be a US death/internment
> camp.
> > It is actually
> > a prison camp... in North Korea. If more people got worked up about real
> > death camps instead
> > of imaginary ones, the world might be a better place.
> >
> > Well, it goes on and on, its all out there if you want to read up on it.
> > Sorry but this particular
> > facet of Jaz's paranoia gets on my frigging nerves and I'm pissed off
> that
> > he's clogging up valuable
> > album space with boring songs about it. If it had been a great song, I
> > wouldn't have minded so much.
> >
> > n
> >
> >
> > On 28 March 2012 23:08, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ever cheerful Jaz.
> >>
> >> Thing is, he laughs alot too!
> >> A very interesting man - I'm glad he's wrong most of the time!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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