[kj] Glasgow Shambles

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Mar 14 18:46:58 EDT 2012


OT question - does letting off a fire extinguisher inside a recording studio
cause any damage to anything? I know there's class A / B / C extinguishers,
for different kinds of 'fire events' - assume it was a gas-based one (C?)
for electrical fires.Geordie wouldn't be dumb enough to spray liquid on a
recording console.surely.



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:19 a.m.
To: baxmatic at gmail.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Glasgow Shambles



Don't promoters carry insurance as a matter of course? I mean, if you're
promoting international touring bands, isn't it just good business practice?








Blessed are the Cracked for

they let in the Light,

others all are just a..

'nother brick in the Wall



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From: Tony Stuart <baxmatic at gmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Glasgow Shambles



the promoter was on facebook saying the gig was cut short missing "a couple
of songs"..

but there were seven songs remaining unplayed on the setlist...

i dont expect the promoter to put themselves out for the punters.

KJ havent bothered their arse to say anythign about it -- but they were
quick enough to appease Sheffield for missing an encore last week

lame as fuck






On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:

If its anything like in the States, responsibility falls to the promoter.
The venue is simply a rented space that receives either a guarantee or a
portion of the door vs. liquor sales or some other arrangement. Many clubs
do also host and promote their own shows but that was apparently not the
case here. As for the band, they also receive a guarantee from the promoter,
not from the venue. Most venue/promoter contracts will also have some kind
of "act of God" clause that determines who gets paid, how much and under
what circumstances, i.e. bad weather, power outages etc. KJ and the ABC got
their money; it's up to the promoter to decide what constitutes a full show
and when to offer refunds.


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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:00:05 +0000
From: baxmatic at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Glasgow Shambles

Yes, the promoter passes the buck to the venue who pass the buck to the
energy supplier.

We'll get over it. Its just a bit raw meantime.

Would like to think KJ will make a gesture of some kind to play another gig
somewhere up here at the end of the tour, but it will all be forgotten by
now, no doubt... the past is a foreign country, after all...





On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM, wessidetempest .
<wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:

I would think that's up to the venue. It's not the bands fault. Next person
down the ladder is the venue.

So they make a claim. Then that claim goes to the city for the money. But
they won't get it.

Risk of running a venue I guess. But the odds are pretty high it won't
happen again



On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:46 AM, "Tony Stuart" <baxmatic at gmail.com> wrote:

Update:

Managed to get through to the duty manager at the venue, who was very
candid, and he says that the promoter (triple g/ regular music) has refused
to issue refunds or attempt to organise another show..

So, everyone's been left high and dry, and not a peep from the band.

Totally shambolic.



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Tony Stuart <baxmatic at gmail.com> wrote:

Surprised this hasn't got a mention yet.

The KJ gig at Glasgow on monday night got pulled halfway though because of a
power cut.

The gig was no more than half way through, as i saw the setlist on the
stage, that proved it.

I've hassled the venue for a refund, and they panned me off by saying that
its down to the promoter to autghorise refunds.

Today, can't get though to speak to anyone, just an answering machine that
doesnt accept messages.

Power cut wasn't the band's fault obviously, but there's been a
disappointing silence from all concerned.

Doubt I'll ever bother with KJ again unless someone pipes up to make an
official comment.









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