[kj] The Great Belly...

[Rob Moss]

Atkins Raven was a hell of a combination for sure. Raven always gave credit to Atkins even when they didn't see eye to eye. 


On 12 Jul 2012, at 22:39, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:


> Respectfully counter-disagree, since I did see them in 1991.

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> Atkins was a fine addition and certainly better than either Dugmore or Parsons (sorry Godflesh-lovers) but his schtick only worked on the Extremities tracks. Anything else and he sounded like a toddler taking it out on the pots and pans. 

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> The water-on-the-drumhead bit was labored as well.

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> There seems to be a big divide here between the rubbery finesse of the Youth/BPF axis vs. the industrial thuggery of Raven/Atkins. Read any recent review online and you can usually tell with what album the writer started listening to KJ.

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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:05:30 +0100

> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Great Belly...

> 

> 

> disagree totally

> anyone who saw killing joke early in 1991 realised at the time that they were probably seeing the best live act ever to grace the stage

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> the songwriting has been better on 2012  IMO than on any other recording since extremities is that down to a combination of the 4 original members gelling after a few years?probably

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> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net> 

> Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012, 18:41

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Great Belly...

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> Rheinhold:

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> You summed it up, beautifully, about Big Paul.  There are no substitutes, period.

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> K.W.

> SoCal

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee

> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:03 AM

> To: Gathering Gathering

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Great Belly...

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> BPF didn't play the festivals in 2010-11 either. I assume he's able to manage his NYC schedule around a full tour but not these one-off weekend gigs.

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> I said it before and I'll say it again: BPF is the missing piece and the video of Jason Bowld just confims it. Bowld's a dependable timekeeper, i'm sure, but also a basher with little finesse. I've seen KJ with 5 different drummers now and the closest anyone's come to BPF is Ben Calvert and even he was wide of the mark. My GF accompanied me to the Chicago shows in 2010 and she couldn't give a rip about KJ but she left impressed, commenting "the drummer was incredible."

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> Indeed.

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> From: PaulGorman at ireland.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:28:15 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Great Belly...

> Hey Alex,

>  

> No doubt you caught up, but just in case, Jason Bowld, is the drummer.

> What I have not heard yet is why, had Big Paul, a sick note?

> I guess it could be any reason and none of my business, but after the Youth blog, I think it was, things did not sound happy in camp KJ.

> Or I guess he could have had other commitments, just curious though.

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> dub

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> Sent: 09 July 2012 02:16 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Great Belly...

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> Who's that on drums?

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> Alex in NYC

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> On Jul 8, 2012, at 1:05 AM, Paul Gorman [Home] wrote:

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> Time for a new boiler suit me thinks…

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BgFsOwFZvk

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