[kj] The Great Belly...

Rheinhold Squeegee kjlist at live.com
Thu Jul 12 17:39:18 EDT 2012



Respectfully counter-disagree, since I did see them in 1991.

Atkins was a fine addition and certainly better than either Dugmore or Parsons (sorry Godflesh-lovers) but his schtick only worked on the Extremities tracks. Anything else and he sounded like a toddler taking it out on the pots and pans.

The water-on-the-drumhead bit was labored as well.

There seems to be a big divide here between the rubbery finesse of the Youth/BPF axis vs. the industrial thuggery of Raven/Atkins. Read any recent review online and you can usually tell with what album the writer started listening to KJ.





Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:05:30 +0100
From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] The Great Belly...




disagree totally
anyone who saw killing joke early in 1991 realised at the time that they were probably seeing the best live act ever to grace the stage

the songwriting has been better on 2012 IMO than on any other recording since extremities is that down to a combination of the 4 original members gelling after a few years?probably





From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012, 18:41
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Rheinhold:

You summed it up, beautifully, about Big Paul. There are no substitutes, period.

K.W.
SoCal



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:03 AM
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BPF didn't play the festivals in 2010-11 either. I assume he's able to manage his NYC schedule around a full tour but not these one-off weekend gigs.

I said it before and I'll say it again: BPF is the missing piece and the video of Jason Bowld just confims it. Bowld's a dependable timekeeper, i'm sure, but also a basher with little finesse. I've seen KJ with 5 different drummers now and the closest anyone's come to BPF is Ben Calvert and even he was wide of the mark. My GF accompanied me to the Chicago shows in 2010 and she couldn't give a rip about KJ but she left impressed, commenting "the drummer was incredible."

Indeed.





From: PaulGorman at ireland.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:28:15 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] The Great Belly...

Hey Alex,

No doubt you caught up, but just in case, Jason Bowld, is the drummer.
What I have not heard yet is why, had Big Paul, a sick note?
I guess it could be any reason and none of my business, but after the Youth blog, I think it was, things did not sound happy in camp KJ.
Or I guess he could have had other commitments, just curious though.

dub



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 09 July 2012 02:16 PM
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Who's that on drums?



Alex in NYC





On Jul 8, 2012, at 1:05 AM, Paul Gorman [Home] wrote:



Time for a new boiler suit me thinks…



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