[kj] KJ & Spirituality

[bongo]

i've had a smoke, so excuse me . . . . . . . . .

=)




      " there is no life after death. No heaven or hell. If you want to
believe it, you've got to prove it."




likewise with your 'belief' that this is it and there is no life after
death - you *cannot* prove it... we are ignorant of our true place in the
scheme of things, but there are clues and truths out there.
one truth- *when you are sincerely selfless and help someone, it feels
good..* and your spirit feels *lighter*.. (en*light*enment?).this is the
same regardless of culture. with observation, this is easily something you
can perceive for yourself.

 random rambling...
a forest, over time, is still a forest. trees grow and trees decay, but the
forest is the trees. they become something other than themselves, a greater
identity... that thought doesnt really go anywhere, but an observation..
macrocosm microcosm kinda thing, as above, so below..

another random... what happens to your consciousness when you sleep?
sometimes it's like you have identity without a body. you can still *see* in
dreams, still *communicate* with other separate identities/entities in
dreams.. when we 'die', i sometimes imagine that we just lose the body..and
the ego... but that our essence continues... worth a thought...?

i've heard that there are two deaths. the death of the body, and then death
of the ego (maybe the egyptian BA and KA, cant remember). this could
explain why ppl have diff accounts of near death experiences. anyway, its
amazing how witnesses to the same event in the physical world can have
differing accounts, let alone peaking in to an unfamiliar realm.
the same environment will often be percieved differently by individuals.


if you've ever dabbled in good drugs, then i'm sure you've had the
connected *one with the universe* experience.. speaking of which, how the
hell can we NOT be at one with the universe?? does it stop at our outer
cells (*our* outer cells, like we *own* them, lol) and we impose upon it
from an external unrelated source?
we are part of this, not apart from it. we are the universe, we are god.



and of course organised religion is fucked up. but, the essence is there,
just heavily buried. if parts of the bible are of earlier sumerian origin,
are the sumerians then full of shit? its just lost in translation over the
years and hidden in esoteric forms that then have to also undergo
translation over the years. bits of the bible are from egypt, lost in
translation. if sumer and egypt weren't the initial source, maybe they had
it lost in translation also...

we fall for the false comfort of religion because we dont know who we are
and where we come from. in much the same way, we fall for other comforts-
nationalism, sports team, culture, tribe, family... an identity we build
that is not the real experiencer.



i recommend finding all the audio lectures of Alan Watts, about 50+ hours
worth, and listening to them all. ten or more times.


(ps anyone who is a druid, is not a druid. anyone who is a priest, is not a
priest. we are all the same)





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> From: www.robert.com at hotmail.co.uk

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> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 06:56:32 +0100

> Subject: [kj] KJ & Spirituality

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>  I've read that Jaz became a Priest of an Anglican Church in New Zealand a

> few years ago, resigned from 2 out of 4 mystical orders he was a member of,

> and has an interest in Gnosticism. Geordie apparently is a Kabbalah Master

> and Youth is a Druid. Also that Paul Ferguson is not so involved in occult

> practices now, as in the 1980s. I first began to study world religions and

> the esoteric, after getting into KJ after I saw them on BBC TV's Top of the

> Pops and Channel 4's The Tube in 1985. I do believe there is life after

> death in some form. What do other Gatherers think?

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