[kj] Gay thing

[Nick Scott]

The best "Gay" band to not get anywhere were the criminally underrated
and overlooked Kitchens Of Distinction.

On 9 February 2012 17:42, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I was recently asked if I beleive in 'Gay' civil rights. To which I replied,

> i believe in many civil rights, but not marginalisation; self or coerced.

> To me they were asking whether I believed in the self-marginalisation of

> gays, I do not.

> Let the whole accept the differences which make it.

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> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:41:42 +0100

> From: rob.moss at gmx.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Gay thing

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> I get really tired of gay groups using the "gay thing" as a tool to stir it

> up.

> Highlighting sexuality as a difference in order to say that they are not

> different. Durrrrr!!! Fucking hypocrisy.

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> Like certain black groups, white groups, religious groups. Add to the list.

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> Fuck it. We live in a bigger, smarter more socially aware society where my

> kids don't care about creed, colour, gender, abilities/disabilities.

> My kids are far more accepting and informed than I ever was. they don't have

> anything like the hangups we all had. They just GET ON WITH IT! Sure they do

> the "you're gay thing". Like people do the "You're fat" "Your bald" thing to

> me! Offensive? Depending on the situation. You can be over sensitive. Yes

> these words can cause offence but I think we all know when to use them and

> when not to.

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> There will always be a section of society that is anti-this, anti-that. I

> think that people are generally far more tolerant these days.

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> Peter Tatchell is a boring self publicist who is a professional homosexual

> in my opinion. Get with it man! I admire him for certyain things but he is

> rather tiresome.

> Dragging up some stupid bollocks from 30 years ago.

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> Rant over.

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> Back in box!

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> ----- Original Message -----

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> From: Janean Lancaster

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> Sent: 02/09/12 02:23 PM

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> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Gay thing

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> On 08/02/2012 17:19, Phillipps, Marc wrote:

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> I think some of this may be a case of looking back to the past with the

> mindset of today (if you see what I mean)

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> Back in the early/mid eighties “fag” “queer” etc didn’t have quite the same

> meaning as they do these days, they were still bloody stupid things to say

> though

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> Exactly.  Lots of people flippantly used those words in the 80s.  Even me,

> as a closet queer.  Times have changed, I like to think most people have

> grown up about such matters having realised that those words actually cause

> offence.

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> On 08/02/2012 22:11, Mike Cooper wrote:

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> Wufter?  I have not heard that expression in.... well 25 years.  Made me

> laugh I have to be honest.

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> Heh - I call my dog that sometimes, as a term of endearment.  Woofter!  But

> only because he woofs.

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