[kj] Gay thing

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Thu Feb 9 12:42:51 EST 2012



I was recently asked if I beleive in 'Gay' civil rights. To which I replied, i believe in many civil rights, but not marginalisation; self or coerced.
To me they were asking whether I believed in the self-marginalisation of gays, I do not.
Let the whole accept the differences which make it.




Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 15:41:42 +0100
From: rob.moss at gmx.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Gay thing

I get really tired of gay groups using the "gay thing" as a tool to stir it up.
Highlighting sexuality as a difference in order to say that they are not different. Durrrrr!!! Fucking hypocrisy.

Like certain black groups, white groups, religious groups. Add to the list.

Fuck it. We live in a bigger, smarter more socially aware society where my kids don't care about creed, colour, gender, abilities/disabilities.
My kids are far more accepting and informed than I ever was. they don't have anything like the hangups we all had. They just GET ON WITH IT! Sure they do the "you're gay thing". Like people do the "You're fat" "Your bald" thing to me! Offensive? Depending on the situation. You can be over sensitive. Yes these words can cause offence but I think we all know when to use them and when not to.

There will always be a section of society that is anti-this, anti-that. I think that people are generally far more tolerant these days.

Peter Tatchell is a boring self publicist who is a professional homosexual in my opinion. Get with it man! I admire him for certyain things but he is rather tiresome.
Dragging up some stupid bollocks from 30 years ago.

Rant over.

Back in box!






----- Original Message -----
From: Janean Lancaster
Sent: 02/09/12 02:23 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Gay thing

On 08/02/2012 17:19, Phillipps, Marc wrote:

I think some of this may be a case of looking back to the past with the mindset of today (if you see what I mean)





Back in the early/mid eighties “fag” “queer” etc didn’t have quite the same meaning as they do these days, they were still bloody stupid things to say though Exactly. Lots of people flippantly used those words in the 80s. Even me, as a closet queer. Times have changed, I like to think most people have grown up about such matters having realised that those words actually cause offence.

On 08/02/2012 22:11, Mike Cooper wrote:
Wufter? I have not heard that expression in.... well 25 years. Made me laugh I have to be honest.
Heh - I call my dog that sometimes, as a term of endearment. Woofter! But only because he woofs.

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