[kj] Of Topic, of sorts....

[Agni Deva]

"Give me control of a nations $ and I care not who makes its laws..." 
House of Rothchild 1863

which who are one of the banking families behind the federal reserve...

I had surreal meeting with Ralph Nadar about a year ago- at this beige 
"green" trade show in DC- we sat above the trade show floor and 
overlooked it- he pointed down and said- see all this great stuff going 
on under this roof. Its all wonderful of course, but there is no real 
cohesion and direction to it. Everyone just kind of does there own 
thing and pushes on in their own way...
On talking more, he feels that there is enough already in place to make 
major changes- for the environment, economy (opposing fed), human 
rights etc-- its just a matter of really organizing everyone whose head 
is in the game. He is looking for 3-4 super rich to become sympathetic 
and fund a sort of 'governing body' which would then help to unify and 
maximize all the work being doing now...
sounds great on paper of course- and it would take everyone to 
cooperate, which I find would be more of the difficult task then 
actually finding the $ and coming up with a sort of overseeing group. 
Especially since it would be 'unofficial'

So (for instance with  what alex was reporting) with this 'occupy wall 
street'   I don't nec think its a sign of 'flakiness' that there are 
someone differing sinage/stances at the protest, but I could well 
imagine the whole event could have stood better organizing and 
unification. and I could have already guessed it was maybe 20% 
substance 80% fluff/people protesting for the sake of protesting- but 
whatever the percentage is, its better then nothing.

As for the federal reserve, I just feel the general public needs to get 
a better understanding  of what it actually is, how its run and who 
runs it. then make their own conclusions--
   Ron Paul did agree to do a story with me when I wanted to do one up- 
with the goings ons right now I may take it as the opportune time to to 
do...

Adam

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>From what I can tell, the Fed is an illegal / unconstitutional 

privately
owned banking cartel who print the reserve currency of the world from a 
zero
balance cheque account.

There's a book on the establishment and workings of the Fed called 'The
Creature from Jekyl Island' - even easier, here's a speech by the 
author on
Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J93k

As far as I can tell he's on the money, but Wikipedia suggests he's a 
kook
on some other topics. Typical.

The only American politician I've heard who makes sense about the Fed 
is Ron
Paul. Again as far as I understand (from Adam) he's got his kooky angles
too.


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Good to know Alex, thanks for clearing that up!

It seems like people have forgotten *how* to protest.
It mostly just seems like an excuse to cause damage and loot these 
days....

What a shame.

A L P

~Love Me Like A Reptile~
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On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:36 AM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> 
wrote:


>

> With all due respect, the Occupy Wall Street thing lacks all 

semblance of
cohesion. If their goal is to completely alienate people, they're 
succeeding
in spades.  I'm not suggesting that there isn't any merit in some of 
things
they're trying (very poorly) to express, but they are all over the 
place.
Some carry signs that say "Punish the Fed." Others say "Justice for Troy
Davis." These are two entirely different messages (and just two 
examples of
many).  A large percentage of them, I have to say, seem to be out and
protesting merely for the *SAKE* of protesting.

>

> One of the now-infamous pepper spray incidents happened down my street

(University Place). We live nowhere near Wall Street.

>

> I respect everyone's right to protest, but organization and uniformity

will probably serve you better than idealism, sound-bytey platitudes and
blaring into vuvuzelas.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

> On Sep 26, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Blazingstar418 wrote:

>

>> In case the folks here *don't* know that this is going on due to a

complete lack of media coverage.

>>

>> Occupy Wall Street.

>>

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU9Dx0x9h4A

>>

>> https://occupywallst.org/

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, 

the
mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy 
of
space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous
setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

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