[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 99, Issue 12

[Dominico C]

Huh... I find it really fucking ironic that everyone who communicates on 
this Gathering list, probably uses an interface and OS most that most likely 
had been developed by Microsoft and / or Apple, but I see Gates and Jobs 
being dissed...??? That’s fucked up.... I have respect for both!

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Today's Topics:

   1. shaped by war (jpwhkj at aol.com)
   2. OT: rip steve jobs (fatpotanga)
   3. Re: shaped by war (nicholas fitzpatrick)
   4. Re: OT: rip steve jobs (Phillipps, Marc)
   5. Re: OT: rip steve jobs (Aleph Kali)
   6. Re: OT: rip steve jobs (Brendan Quinn)
   7. Re: OT: rip steve jobs (GREG SLAWSON)
   8. Re: OT: rip steve jobs (sneakypete at uwclub.net)
   9. Re: OT: rip steve jobs (Daniel Corvo)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 20:19:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: [kj] shaped by war
To: gathering at misera.net
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I think this was mentioned here when it was at the IWM in Manchester. 
Here's a link to a slide show with audio interview with McCullin:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8492000/8492777.stm

...anyway, I was in Waterloo station the other day, and what should greet me 
on a huge screen above the train info but this picture:

http://london.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.24681

Aside from the obvious KJ link, McCullin's a thoughtful chap, and an amazing 
photographer, so I highly recommend a visit.

Jamie
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 07:57:04 +0100
From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
<gathering at misera.net>
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Love him or hate him, he made a hell of an impact


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:41:43 +0000
From: nicholas fitzpatrick <gasw30 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] shaped by war
To: <gathering at misera.net>
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This photo looks like Killing Joke on stage playing to an audience of young 
boys, who run away.


To: gathering at misera.net
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 20:19:51 -0400
Subject: [kj] shaped by war


I think this was mentioned here when it was at the IWM in Manchester. 
Here's a link to a slide show with audio interview with McCullin:





http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8492000/8492777.stm





...anyway, I was in Waterloo station the other day, and what should greet me 
on a huge screen above the train info but this picture:





http://london.iwm.org.uk/server/show/nav.24681





Aside from the obvious KJ link, McCullin's a thoughtful chap, and an amazing 
photographer, so I highly recommend a visit.





Jamie

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:38:35 +0100
From: "Phillipps, Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at nclondon.nhs.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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How soon is too soon?

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/can-we-get-fla
sh-now?-ask-apple-owners-201110064389/



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Subject: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs

Love him or hate him, he made a hell of an impact
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 02:38:20 -0700
From: Aleph Kali <blazingstar418 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs
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Agreed!

~Love Me Like A Reptile~
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:47:48 +1300
From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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Can someone actually articulate what Jobs is supposed to have done that's
worthy of adulation? I read that someone just compared him to Edison and
Einstein? WTF?

I don't see him donating most of his time and money to charity like Gates
(who has drummed up several tens of billions more cash from other rich ppl),
I do see Apple using Chinese slave labour in conditions so onerous that they
have to install anti-suicide nets.

Xerox Parc invented the GUI / mouse, M$ and Apple both ripped it off, for
some reason Jobs was indignant that M$ used it too, like he'd actually
invented it.

Could he code, or design computers? I don't think so, Wozniak did the brain
work didn't he? Compared to Bill Gates who was a child prodigy and the chief
of technology at M$...

Personality...he got kicked out of Apple because he alienated everyone by
being a prick from what I understand.

I really don't get the Apple cult.

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Behalf Of Aleph Kali
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Cc: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs

Agreed!

~Love Me Like A Reptile~
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:35:00 -0400
From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs
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Thank for posting Brendan. As far as I'm concerned, the loss of a 
labor-exploiting capitalist is
a victory for the rest of us, no matter how many useless gadgets he claims 
to have put out.
(and I personally think people would be better off not walking around 
looking at little screens
all day, but that's just my opinion).
As for Gates, he is one of the main assholes advocating for attacks on US 
public schools--
ending teachers unions, bringing in more "charter" schools, more testing, 
etc. If he was
such a do-gooder he wouldn't be trying to take away education from lower 
income folks. I've also
read that the "charity" he's involved in causes more harm than good in other 
ways too.



> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:47:48 +1300

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs

>

> Can someone actually articulate what Jobs is supposed to have done that's

> worthy of adulation? I read that someone just compared him to Edison and

> Einstein? WTF?

>

> I don't see him donating most of his time and money to charity like Gates

> (who has drummed up several tens of billions more cash from other rich 

> ppl),

> I do see Apple using Chinese slave labour in conditions so onerous that 

> they

> have to install anti-suicide nets.

>

> Xerox Parc invented the GUI / mouse, M$ and Apple both ripped it off, for

> some reason Jobs was indignant that M$ used it too, like he'd actually

> invented it.

>

> Could he code, or design computers? I don't think so, Wozniak did the 

> brain

> work didn't he? Compared to Bill Gates who was a child prodigy and the 

> chief

> of technology at M$...

>

> Personality...he got kicked out of Apple because he alienated everyone by

> being a prick from what I understand.

>

> I really don't get the Apple cult.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of Aleph Kali

> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:38 p.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Cc: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs

>

> Agreed!

>

> ~Love Me Like A Reptile~

> www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus

>

> On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:57 PM, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > Love him or hate him, he made a hell of an impact

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Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:33:19 +0100
From: sneakypete at uwclub.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs
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On Thu 10:38 AM , "Phillipps, Marc" Marc.Phillipps at nclondon.nhs.uk
sent:
  How soon is too soon?

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/can-we-get-fla
[1]
sh-now?-ask-apple-owners-201110064389/
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:20:45 +0000
From: Daniel Corvo <danielcorvo at hotmail.co.uk>
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how about that, too soon?




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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:33:19 +0100
From: sneakypete at uwclub.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: rip steve jobs

how soon is now?





On Thu 10:38 AM , "Phillipps, Marc" Marc.Phillipps at nclondon.nhs.uk sent:

How soon is too soon?

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/can-we-get-fla
sh-now?-ask-apple-owners-201110064389/



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