[kj] (OT) Dangerous Dancing?

folk devil folk.devil at hotmail.com
Mon May 30 13:00:23 EDT 2011



Were they threatening harm (mental or physical) in anyway? If yes, why didn't the police cite them with disorderly conduct, or similar?
In the street, the majority of people would just avoid them. All this tells me is that nothing really ever changes. From Poll Tax to Gulf War.

From: Devacor at aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 00:04:09 -0400
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Dangerous Dancing?




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what I mentioned wasn't going into whether it was constitutional or
unconstitutional (the cops stances and reactions) but the fact of once it
got to the point it did, the outcome was entirely predictable.

whether it's right or wrong or somewhere in between, there is
just a heightened standard of conduct when you are within the
monuments and inside places as such- that's just how it is (everyone
around here knows that) and that is the point you arent factoring
in.
if they were in front of the monument or on the mall, no one
would have cared- and if something as such happened to them when they were
just on the front steps, well then that would have been another story.

and if they started in with their 'dance' and the cops then came over
and started in like that without a warning, then that would have been
different also.

to me this is 'activism' at its worst- to the general public it
makes activists come off as cheap flakes and in a deeper sense its the
epitome of the statement 'what you resist persists' - this just
feeds the machine more and reinforces the system they are trying to bring
light upon- its a lose lose.
there are right ways and wrong ways at going about things- that
was neither, that was just dumb.

Adam





In a message dated 5/29/2011 10:41:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:

> ..its just ingrained......

that, what.. despite the Constitution
& the Bill Of Rights (that should be
ingrained deeper than anything else even police may
'encourage'/'discourage' at any given place/moment) stating all unstated
rights are the People's unless expressly legislated by Congress, that
despite such 'quaint' and 'antiquated' principles (they are 200+
yrs.old, after all) we shouldn't do, nay, we are wrong and fuckeen'
criminals - outlaws! - in doing!, anything that, at most, the
police won't like simply because they don't like?
Is there
a law criminalizing "F[ucking] around and be[ing] 'cute'?"
That would be THE ONLY decision worthy of defending
then, not that (just/only) some cops just didn't like it. Right? I mean,
LAWS are supposed to be defended, not cops' pet-peeves, and not
cops just because they're cops and our love for
Authorit-[attach suffix of choice here]. Right? I guess.. dunno anymore.



> ..and were provoking the cops...

So, being [only] a smart-ass is now illegally Criminal
(redundancy for emphasis)? I'm guessing if they would've actually
crossed the line (i.e. the Law) you wouldn't hesitate a second to
say so, so I may assume that you meant only a
smart-ass?
I think the comment about that misses


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