[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 92, Issue 63

David Noonan noonan.hq at ntlworld.com
Wed Mar 16 08:03:52 EDT 2011


Saw them in the mid eighties in Lancaster at the Sugar House, which was
always a good venue - and it was a glorious, foggy, gothic extravaganza,
with the legendary 'pyramid builders' and kicked myself for not seeing them
again, though by the sounds of things I haven't missed a lot! I was going to
see them in Leeds too Brian, but through my own incompetence never went...I
think I will give them a wide berth though after following this thread! I
did see a picture somewhere of Eldritch with blonde hair which made me
suspect he had left the rails...

Dave
Leeds


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> 1. Re: OT: sisters of mercy (Phillipps Marc)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:49:36 -0000

> From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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> Is that the gig where you can hear Eldritch saying "Where's Brian?" on the

> bootlegs?

>

>

>

> ________________________________

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of Brian Whitehead

> Sent: 16 March 2011 11:40

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy

>

>

>

> I bought tickets for the recent Leeds shows and as soon as I had ordered them

> I sat there completely bemused as to why I had done so.

> Didn't go and didn't get rid of the tickets.

>

> Brian.

>

> On 16 March 2011 11:16, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> To my misfortune i have only seen them 1990 onwards

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

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> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:54:40 +0100

> From: 65snoopy at gmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy

>

> I used to love The Sisters. I saw them three times in 84/85 and the gigs were

> a blast - ridiculous

> to be sure, but defiantly so! I saw them twice at the Lyceum and the 'final'

> gig at the Albert Hall

> (the end of the Hussey/Adams/Eldritch line-up). The Lyceum gigs were played

> almost entirely in

> a massive cloud of smoke - you could see Eldritch in silhouette and the

> occasional hat or guitar neck

> sticking out of the gloom... hilarious. But the sound was superb - nothing

> like a well-employed drum machine -

> and they really did rock (Temple of Love, Alice, Adrenochrome etc). And I

> always thought their choice of cover versions was superb - Gimme Shelter,

> Sister Ray, Emmaline, Jolene.

>

> I should have made do with my happy memories but was stupid enough to go and

> see them

> in the 90s. Eldritch had decided to "rewrite" - ie ruin - some of the old

> stuff, so all the crowd

> favourites had weirdly changed guitar riffs and sometimes different rhythms.

> It was horrible.

> Never been tempted since.

>

> n

>

> On 16 March 2011 01:10, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

> I have to agree. The Sisters and KJ are pretty disimilar, unless we're

> assuming that all forms of goth, post-punk, metal, industrial etc etc were

> created by Killing Joke. As influential as KJ have been, the Sisters were

> quite obviously not brought into existence purely through the Joke.

>

>

>

> Jim.

>

>

>

> --- On Tue, 15/3/11, Aleph Kali <blazingstar418 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> "...and of course they wouldn't exist w/o the Joke (and I guess Bauhaus too"

>

>

>

> The Sisters started out in 1980 and were contemporaries of both KJ and

> Bauhaus, but certainly have never listed either group as an influence.

>

>

>

>

>

> "The band cited Leonard Cohen <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Cohen> ,

> Hawkwind <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkwind> , Gary Glitter

> <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Glitter> , The Velvet Underground

> <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Velvet_Underground> , The Stooges

> <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stooges> , Mot?rhead

> <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot%C3%B6rhead> , Suicide

> <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_%28band%29> , The Birthday Party

> <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birthday_Party_%28band%29> , Pere Ubu and

> The Fall <http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fall_%28band%29> as among their

> influences"

>

>

>

> How do you figure that they wouldn't exist without KJ, considering they sound

> *nothing* alike?

>

>

>

> A L P

>

> ~Love Me Like A Reptile~

>

> www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus

>

>

> On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:38 PM, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gregslawson@msn.com> > wrote:

>

> There was always something phony and corny about the Sisters to me...and of

> course they wouldn't exist w/o the Joke (and I guess Bauhaus too)

>

>

>

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> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy

>

> Outside the Gate? ;)

>

> ~Love Me Like A Reptile~

>

> <http://www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus> www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus

>

>

> On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:11 PM,

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpwhkj@aol.com> jpwhkj at aol.com

> <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpwhkj@aol.com> wrote:

>

> Jaz, pompous, what are you thinking? <grin>

>

>

>

> I thought the early Sisters stuff (Temple of Love etc) was pretty good but no

> more than that. Whereas Killing Joke have got something to be pompous

> about...

>

>

>

> Jamie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

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> Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:16

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy

>

> "More" certainly isn't their finest.

>

> Try either of these instead:

>

>

>

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324>

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frcQwZt324

>

>

>

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related>

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8&feature=related

>

>

>

> And, it's a good thing that Jaz never came off as pompous back then.... :D

>

>

>

> A L P

>

>

>

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> Subject: [kj] OT: sisters of mercy

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> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:56 PM

>

> I've just watched them doing More on youtube, and was reminded of how utterly

> pompous they seemed back in the day (in particular, Eldritch's voice).

>

>

>

> Was I wrong? Any Sisters fans care to tell me why they were great?

>

>

>

> Jamie

>

>

>

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> Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:02

> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

> "Their wry little website has been coy about things for literally decades."

>

>

>

> Hahaha. Doing better than the Joke then!

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Alex Smith <

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> Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:38

> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

> Weird thing about the Sisters as a live-concern these days (and these days

> means everything since the mid-90s, I guess), is that they continue to write

> and perform NEW songs, but they just don't exist as official releases. Sure,

> you can prize them as muddied bootlegs, but for some of us -- that's just not

> good enough. Their wry little website has been coy about things for literally

> decades.

>

> Meanwhile, is anyone going to the Mission reunion (without Mick)? They're

> recording a reunion album as well .... like the world needs that.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Phillipps Marc

> Sent: Mar 15, 2011 11:34 AM

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

> Thinking about it, being a SOM fan is a bit like being a KJ fan if their

> last album was Extremities . .

>

>

>

> Some may think this is a good thing :o)

>

>

>

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

>

>

> the compy..

>

>

> ________________________________

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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:09:12 +0000

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

>> Last studio album was 1990

>

>

>

> I was thinking about A Slight Case of Overbombing

>

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>

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

>

>

> Last studio album was 1990. A Temple of Love remix in 92 and Greatest

> hits, 1993.

> I guess they do a lot of merch? :/

>

>

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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:15:06 +0000

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

> Can a band that hasn't released anything since 1993 really be considered

> a band any more?

>

>

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> Sent: 15 March 2011 12:07

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

>

>

> Don't mention the word Goth to Andy he hates it , has been known to pull

> out of any festival that mentions the word.

>

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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:05:19 +0000

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

>> but I wonder what the status is these days.

>

>

>

> They're not really The Sisters any more are they? More like Happy Andy

> E's 80's Goth Revival Band as far as I can see

>

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> Sent: 15 March 2011 11:49

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 - 10:

>

>

>

>

>

> I hate seeing the words "Killing Joke" underneath the word "Slipknot" on

> a bill. That just ain't right.

>

>

>

> Meanwhile, what's the communication like between KJ and the Sisters? I

> believe I remember Jaz slagging off the Sisters way back circa OTG, but

> I wonder what the status is these days.

>

>

>

> Alex in NYC

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>

> On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Steve Hackett wrote:

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>

>

> I'd read there were unlikely to be any this year...I'm so hoping that's

> wrong..

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> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:11 PM

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Also, Sonisphere Knebworth (UK) on July 8 -

> 10:

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>

>

> Killing Joke headline the Bohemia stage AFTER the big four play

> the main stage on the Friday !!! Seriously hoping for single day tickets

> here ...

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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