[kj] 2012 Tour dates

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 11 00:55:28 EDT 2011



> OTG is an under-appreciated prog-metal masterpiece, just with the guitars a bit low in the mix


 *ahem aHEM!* I think you mean (that is, I hope you mean) "Extremities, Dirt, & Various yada yada..." in place of OTG, and bass in place of guitars in the above phrase.  It was the word "masterpiece" that gave away your honest and innocent mistake of referring to OTG instead of ExDAVRE. A most forgivable oversight, seeing as how OTG is all of that as written, just not quite "masterpiece" enough.

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From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] 2012 Tour dates


Talking about pirates (see attachment)
 
PS: Nick, to help you get your head around the list, here’s some things that have been fiercely argued out but which we’ve finally managed to achieve general consensus on:
 
OTG is an under-appreciated prog-metal masterpiece, just with the guitars a bit low in the mix
 
Pandemonium has been voted best album in every poll by a surprising margin
 
Punk, while a technically and culturally inferior ‘art’ form, originating in the US, had a lasting contribution in influencing superior music later on, especially grunge
 
Geordie’s best when he’s chug-chugging in 4/4
 
Pirates > friends
 
 
From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of daimon cook
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2011 11:53 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 2012 Tour dates
 
DEFINITELY WITH YOU ABOUT THE STRANGENESS AKA SNOBBINESS OF THIS LIST.
 
ALSO COMPLETELY AGREE ABOUT WOLVERHAMPTON HERE.
 
RAVEN WASNT SUCH A BAD GUY. I KNOW HE WAS A TRUE PIRATE UNLIKE MOST ANYONE ELSE I KNOW ON THIS LIST  AND PIRATES GENERALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT FRIENDS. ARGGGGHHHH
 
STAY EVER VIGILANT NICK M8 GOOD TO MEET YOU AND PLZ EXCUSE MY CAPS IM BLIND AS A BAT!
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
What a strange mailing list this is, you have to "earn your right to
have an opinion", is there a holier than thou attitude going on here
about how much of a fucking KJ fan you are?!

Whilst my favourite gigs ever by KJ happened to be in Digbeth,
Birmingham, I have enjoyed all the gigs I have seen them play at in
Wolves except perhaps the last one when Jaz's voice was totally shot
on the Hossannas tour.

KJ have not played in Birmingham since the old Academy in 2005, which
has moved to a different site.


>From many concerts I have been to, by KJ and other artists, I agree

with Jane, and would add personally that any tense gigs by post punk
bands, northern gigs seem livelier.

I don't understand the "strange choice" of destinations though
considering KJ have played particularly on the Pandemonium tour x2 a
lot of the same venues as listed here before, and besides that one
date in Birmingham in 2005, have played Wolves predominantly in the
Midlands since 1994, guess they don't feel it to be a "strange choice"
and possibly actually like playing the Wulfrun Hall?

On 9 July 2011 19:14, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting points, Jane. You've certainly earned your right to have an

> opinion on the subject!

>

> I've not been to that many gigs myself but all the KJ ones in London have

> been brilliant.

>

> There are probably only two people who have been to more KJ gigs than Jon

> and they are Jaz and Geordie so he's entitled to make a general point about

> the strange choices of destinations in recent years and I thought it was a

> valid one, admittedly phrased in his usual direct way!

>

> I've never been to Wolverhampton and don't have an opinion on the place, but

> I do agree that it is criminal to keep overlooking places like Leeds etc.

> Hopefully more dates will be added soon. (And hopefully the new album will

> be ready in time for the tour, etc. etc...)

>

> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:44 PM, <jane.shadforth at shell.com> wrote:

>>

>> For what it’s worth, my penniesworth...

>>

>>

>>

>> I like bands playing unusual places off the regular circuit, (hence I’m

>> tempted with Scheveningen). The best place to see live music imo is Poland –

>> the music fans really appreciate bands coming to play to them with the

>> resulting tremendous atmosphere...

>>

>>

>>

>> But if we’re talking UK cities, and specifically Killing Joke. Manchester

>> has consistently been the best gig on all the last few tours it has featured

>> - and I don’t just say that because I’m biased ;-) I’ve always enjoyed their

>> gigs in Wolves as well... and Notts

>>

>> London gigs don’t rate as the best in my eyes – audiences are far too

>> reserved and hard to please, as they have the privilege of featuring on

>> almost every tour schedule – unfortunately they have usually seen it all

>> before...

>>

>>

>>

>> Jane

>>

>>

>>

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On Behalf Of Paul Rangecroft

>> Sent: 09 July 2011 09:00

>>

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] 2012 Tour dates

>>

>>

>>

>> Sorry, wasn't suggesting everyone going to these gigs was an arsehole but

>> rather agreeing with Jon that traditional northern strongholds shouldn't

>> keep being overlooked in favour of smaller southern locations.

>>

>> London gigs are the best but after that it's the big cities in the north.

>> Geordie said Leeds was one of his favourite places to play and the Newcastle

>> gigs I've been to all had an amazing atmosphere. Whoever has been organising

>> the tours recently doesn't seem to get this.

>

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