[kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

Dominico C dominicoc at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 22 21:02:20 EST 2011


I am going to disagree about comparing OTG to Democracy. For that matter
with Hossanas also. Hossanas has some great tracks, and some that aren't
that great, and the album as whole is kind of inconsistent. From my point of
view, Democracy is a consistent and enjoyable album to listen to. And, I
don't listen to OTG at all. Absolute Dissent is an excellent album all
together, but not a great fan of ESS. This World Hell has grown on me.
Absolute Dissent is the strongest album I've seen since Pandemonium and
Democracy.








> HOSANNAS is a brilliant album!

> Geordie on top form and the last one to feature the great Raven.

>

> Only one album worse than OTG and that is Democracy , so very dull in

> compariosn to the rest


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From: PHIL TOFIELD <phil.tofield at virgin.net>
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Im with Alex on this one, Hosannas is a terrible album, with only one good
song on it and dire production. And Ive got to say, I dont think Absolute
Dissent is a whole lot better.

BTATS is one of my all time favorite albums.


On 20 February 2011 17:52, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:


> HOSANNAS is a brilliant album!

> Geordie on top form and the last one to feature the great Raven.

>

> Only one album worse than OTG and that is Democracy , so very dull in

> compariosn to the rest

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:17:17 +0000

> > To: gathering at misera.net

>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

> >

> > Two words - "Judas" and "Goat".

> >

> > Darren

> > Hungerford, UK

> >

> > On 20 Feb 2011, at 15:56, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Nope. Without question, HOSANNAS = the worst Killing Joke album ever

> (and that includes Courtauld Talks as well). OTG may be HEROICALLY flawed,

> but at least there were some fleshed-out ideas on it (however

> misdirected).

> > >

> > > HOSANNAS is bereft of song.

> > >

> > > Alex in NYC

> > >

> > >

> > > On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Wessidetempest wrote:

> > >

> > >> I do like BTATS but it is the most dated sounding release (not

> counting OTG). And Alex I think someone put a roofy in your coffee. There

> is

> no way in this or any other universe that OTG is better than Hosannas. As

> disappointed as I am with Hossannas it at least has some of the best

> Geordie

> riffs ever.

> > >>

> > >> Chris

> > >>

> > >> On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Alexander Smith

> > >> <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> wrote:

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> BTATS is worth re-discovering, I'd suggest, especially the

> re-release. OTG, meanwhile, remains as bad as you remember it (but it's

> still better than HOSANNAS).

> > >>>

> > >>> Alex in NYC

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> On Feb 19, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Dominico C wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>> OTG is crap, and BTATS I did honestly listen to 20 years ago, but

> not any more. OTG and BTATS are the only 2 albums I don't own...

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Darren A. Peace wrote:

>

> Two words - "Judas" and "Goat".

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK


Exactly. That song and Gratitude.

T.B.




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Hosannas may not have lived up to expectation, but it is still very
listenworthy..
just tweak the EQ a bit and away ya go..
there is classic KJ in that thar album, its just let down in a few places
(insert yr own pet peeve here), but on the whole, should not be written off,
and not be put away and not played!


"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
postponed indefinitely..."


On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM, PHIL TOFIELD
<phil.tofield at virgin.net>wrote:


> Im with Alex on this one, Hosannas is a terrible album, with only one good

> song on it and dire production. And Ive got to say, I dont think Absolute

> Dissent is a whole lot better.

>

> BTATS is one of my all time favorite albums.

>

>

> On 20 February 2011 17:52, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>wrote:

>

>> HOSANNAS is a brilliant album!

>> Geordie on top form and the last one to feature the great Raven.

>>

>> Only one album worse than OTG and that is Democracy , so very dull in

>> compariosn to the rest

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

>> > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:17:17 +0000

>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>

>> > Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

>> >

>> > Two words - "Judas" and "Goat".

>> >

>> > Darren

>> > Hungerford, UK

>> >

>> > On 20 Feb 2011, at 15:56, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> > >

>> > > Nope. Without question, HOSANNAS = the worst Killing Joke album ever

>> (and that includes Courtauld Talks as well). OTG may be HEROICALLY

>> flawed,

>> but at least there were some fleshed-out ideas on it (however

>> misdirected).

>> > >

>> > > HOSANNAS is bereft of song.

>> > >

>> > > Alex in NYC

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Wessidetempest wrote:

>> > >

>> > >> I do like BTATS but it is the most dated sounding release (not

>> counting OTG). And Alex I think someone put a roofy in your coffee. There

>> is

>> no way in this or any other universe that OTG is better than Hosannas. As

>> disappointed as I am with Hossannas it at least has some of the best

>> Geordie

>> riffs ever.

>> > >>

>> > >> Chris

>> > >>

>> > >> On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Alexander Smith <

>> vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>> > >>

>> > >>>

>> > >>> BTATS is worth re-discovering, I'd suggest, especially the

>> re-release. OTG, meanwhile, remains as bad as you remember it (but it's

>> still better than HOSANNAS).

>> > >>>

>> > >>> Alex in NYC

>> > >>>

>> > >>>

>> > >>> On Feb 19, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Dominico C wrote:

>> > >>>

>> > >>>> OTG is crap, and BTATS I did honestly listen to 20 years ago, but

>> not any more. OTG and BTATS are the only 2 albums I don't own...

>> > >>>>

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I dug Hosannas out for the first time in a while a couple of weeks ago.

Still don't rate it very highly - a handful of half decent songs shine
through the muddy production,

And they would have been more than half decent if they'd been half the
length they were.



I never could stand the glossy BTATS production, although the remaster is a
big improvement !!

Some decent songs on it, mind



I've always loved Democracy especially the layers and layers and layers of
Geordies guitars



Peter

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Hosannas may not have lived up to expectation, but it is still very
listenworthy..

just tweak the EQ a bit and away ya go..

there is classic KJ in that thar album, its just let down in a few places
(insert yr own pet peeve here), but on the whole, should not be written off,
and not be put away and not played!


"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
postponed indefinitely..."



On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM, PHIL TOFIELD <phil.tofield at virgin.net>
wrote:

Im with Alex on this one, Hosannas is a terrible album, with only one good
song on it and dire production. And Ive got to say, I dont think Absolute
Dissent is a whole lot better.



BTATS is one of my all time favorite albums.




On 20 February 2011 17:52, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:

HOSANNAS is a brilliant album!
Geordie on top form and the last one to feature the great Raven.

Only one album worse than OTG and that is Democracy , so very dull in
compariosn to the rest












> From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:17:17 +0000

> To: gathering at misera.net




> Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

>



> Two words - "Judas" and "Goat".

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> On 20 Feb 2011, at 15:56, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>

> >

> > Nope. Without question, HOSANNAS = the worst Killing Joke album ever

(and that includes Courtauld Talks as well). OTG may be HEROICALLY flawed,
but at least there were some fleshed-out ideas on it (however misdirected).

> >

> > HOSANNAS is bereft of song.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> > On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Wessidetempest wrote:

> >

> >> I do like BTATS but it is the most dated sounding release (not counting

OTG). And Alex I think someone put a roofy in your coffee. There is no way
in this or any other universe that OTG is better than Hosannas. As
disappointed as I am with Hossannas it at least has some of the best Geordie
riffs ever.

> >>

> >> Chris

> >>

> >> On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

wrote:

> >>

> >>>

> >>> BTATS is worth re-discovering, I'd suggest, especially the re-release.

OTG, meanwhile, remains as bad as you remember it (but it's still better
than HOSANNAS).

> >>>

> >>> Alex in NYC

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> On Feb 19, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Dominico C wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> OTG is crap, and BTATS I did honestly listen to 20 years ago, but not

any more. OTG and BTATS are the only 2 albums I don't own...

> >>>>

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