[kj] OT: Lydon, US v UK punk

[Rob Moss]

When Steve jones and brains are put in the same sentence, we are Fucked!!!

On 3 Feb 2011, at 12:40, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:


> You have been brainwashed by Lydon! The power of advertising at work. I remember when you were a polyunsaturated man through and through!

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> And further to my previous point... Steve Jones actually speaks way more sense than Lydon these days! I'm almost disappointed! Jonesy is now the brains of the Pistols!

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> Margarine in Edinburgh

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> At 12:00 03/02/2011 +0000, you wrote:

>> >Butter can fuck off, margarine rules!

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>> Whilst I agree with everything else you're saying here Dave I am going to have to pull you up on your marge love, nothing beats fresh melting butter on a hot crumpet; marge just can't compare

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>> Sorry

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>> Mr Butter

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>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

>> Sent: 03 February 2011 11:44

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Lydon, US v UK punk

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>> I can't believe anyone still listens to what Lydon has to say about

>> anything. While he used to have something interesting to say in his earlier

>> years, the "Dame Lydon" persona rears its ugly head almost every time now,

>> and he talks total and utter pish! Some of the unbelievable bullshit he was

>> coming out with at recent-ish Pistols gigs made me long for Sid's incisive

>> wisdom!! He is officially Out Of Touch, but still insists on spouting his

>> rrrrubbish.

>> The "butter ads funding PiL tour" is but one example of the nonsense he

>> comes out with. The ticket prices were unbelievably high on the first tour

>> cos  Lydon and/or his management demanded so much from the promoters.

>> Promoters then priced tickets in accordance with what they were paying out.

>> The rest is bollocks! Butter can fuck off, margarine rules!

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>> And in answer to the US/UK punk thing... here it is... it was both!

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>> Dave in Edinburgh

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>> At 21:30 02/02/2011 +0000, you wrote:

>> >How much would the PiL tour tickets have cost without the bu'er adverts?

>> >Do you know, I''m not altogether sure I believe him!

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>> >On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:25 AM, nicholas fitzpatrick

>> ><<mailto:gasw30 at hotmail.com>gasw30 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >I'm not trying to fan the flames of this debate as I don't personally have

>> >an interest. However, I like history, so for the punk historians on the

>> >board, from today's '60 second' interview in the Metro:

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>> >Q: If the Pistols hadn't existed, would punk have happened?

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>> >A: No. There's confusion about this from people who should know better.

>> >Whatever was happening in New York was being done by much older people

>> >than us who were interested in the poetry of Rimbaud or glam rock - which

>> >isn't where we were. Older acts claimed it came from them first, which

>> >isn't right.

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>> >Apart from that, he says he's releasing a book called Mr Rotten's

>> >Scrapbook, limited edition, 750 copies, £449 (that's not a typo!). He also

>> >says the butter adverts funded the PiL tours.

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