[kj] Broken Britain

[gingoblin at easynet.co.uk]

Hha ha, DAMN YOU! I'm unsubscribing... this isn't what I joined this list 
for!!!


At 16:11 12/08/2011 +0100, you wrote:


>Actually Dave, that's a fair point, I think you may be right

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>~:o)

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>Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said

>there

>is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to Africa or

>something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat

>their

>homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford decent food blah

>blah blah.  It IS there.

>

>Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather

>depressing

>amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in my 15 years

>of

>being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "actually, that's a

>fair point... you may be right" hahaha!  But if we don't try and

>understand

>the reasons for things happening, we'll never understand them.

>

>I still go with

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>"Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it

>of

>industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for

>corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money.

>Ask

>for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts

>everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they

>advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's

>ability

>to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."

>

>that was posted the other day.

>

>Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make

>me

>feel better ;)

>

>Dave in Edinburgh

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> >On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200

> >yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and

> >helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. I

> >just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty salon,

> >corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A family

> >member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to protect

>his

> >business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some people had been

> >attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes burnt out. Others

>had

> >their cars burnt. Local people, including myself, were in a complete

>state

> >of shock.

> >

> >I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so

>frightened.

> >I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 stone - and I

>only

> >have kitchen knives to protect myself against a mob invading my home.

> >

> >Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear

>any

> >more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are none.

>London

> >is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this country, the

>welfare

> >state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin

> >America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala City, Managua and Panama

>City

> >with my own eyes, they are shocking, nothing like that here. We have it

>

> >very good indeed in this country compared with most other countries.

> >

> >I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I

>want

> >the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and make me

>feel

> >safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million Londoners is a

>joke,

> >we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few days to become permanent.

>I

> >would like to see a highly visible police presence in London from now

>on,

> >police have been conspicuous by their absence for a long time now. We

>need

> >the authorities to come down like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta"

>

> >culture, hoodies and suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.

> >

> >Stay safe Gatherers

> >Paula aka Nuclear Girl

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