[kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on a Variety ...

[Brendan Quinn]

Raising a host of a hundred thousand men and marching them great distances
entails heavy loss on the people and a drain on the resources of state. The
daily expenditure will amount to a thousand ounces of silver. As many as
seven hundred thousand families will be impeded in their labour 

 

Sun Tzu, 6th Century BC

 

In the West a weekly wage of 10 ounces of silver was regarded as
good.today's spot price is around $41USD, meaning it's cheap by historical
standards. 

 

That's silver, gold I'm not so sure about. I heard that an ounce of gold
would buy you a suit of armour in the ancient world...might buy a banker a
flash suit these days ($USD1475).

 

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Sunday, 10 April 2011 11:56 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
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> Every fiat currency in history has gone to 0. 


 


> Gold has been accepted as a store and value, and 



> medium of exchange, and held its value for thousands of years. 


 

 

I'm trying to get an idea of the range of purchasing (or of
purchasable/marketable value?) power of gold thru any given span of time?

I'm not sure if I'm asking this right, about gold, but - and I guess it
would have to be denominated in terms of some other article recognizable
over historical time?? - what is the most that any given unit of gold has
ever bought, and what is the least?

 

The closest (but not quite accurate) analogy of that that i can think of is
pepper: at one point in Medieval Times a pound of peeper was was worth a
pound of Gold. :~o  But now look how worthless it's become.

 


 

 

  _____  

From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 7:34:42 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a Variety ...

Silver has gone up 420% in 5 years. Dollars are worth considerably less,
and falling drastically quickly, in my opinion about to fall off a cliff.
Commodity price inflation is outpacing wage inflation. Funny how there's a
term 'goldbug' but not 'dollar bug'...

I've found a lot of the best analysis of markets comes from goldbugs
(having spent several hundred hours looking into it and one or two dozen
hours a week ongoing). I share their bearish view of fiat currency, the
Fed, Govt, corporatocracy, sharemarkets.

Alex Jones lets himself down by talking too much shit, but I would never
lump him in with a turd like Glenn Beck. He makes a lot of valid points.
If you'd listened to him and invested in gold, you'd have done very well
so far...(evern better with silver). Keep your money in cash and you'd
have fallen a lot further than most ppl realise (because most people
belive the Fed's nonsense about 2% inflation)

Every fiat currency in history has gone to 0. Gold has been accepted as a
store and value, and medium of exchange, and held its value for thousands
of years. Unlike currencies and stocks, it can never go to zero. there is
a finite supply, and one day it'll be gone. There's no limit to the
ability of computers to create money by adding zeros...

Obama is a really bad joke, the sooner you guys ditch him the better. it's
not like he inherited anything other than a shit deal from Bush, but he's
just as bad. 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit, 14 trillion dollars debt, QE I,
QEII, mark to market abandoned, markets not re-regualted, too big to fail
banks now even bigger, no ones head rolled for the GFC, and the Fed in
conjunction with the Govt is the biggest Ponzi scheme ever.

The US is basically bankrupt, hence printing money hand over fist to
monetize debt. Retirees must be pretty stoked to be getting .5% interest
rates on the nest eggs they've worked and saved their entire lives to
build up, nice one Bernanke. But hey, old, non-productive people, who
gives a shit about them! They don't buy iPads.

/2c



> Yeah, I know he's a nutter, pretty much. (Oddly likable anyway, for me,

> though. - I have the Geordie attitude of "What will you do this one?"

> about

> him :) )) The "green" stuff isn't new -- permaculture, etc. But he's wed

> that to the survivalist/gold bug nuttery that is common currency on the US

> conspiranoid right, right now, thanks in large part to Glenn Beck and Alex

> Jones. Maybe he's unaware that's the discourse in the States -- insisting

> on

> hard currency is basically waving your Ron Paul/Glenn Beck loon flag,

> here,

> in line with having a hard on for the Federal Reserve -- but to an ear

> saturated in current US political arguments, it sounds almost Tea

> Party-esque, like waiting to demand proof of Obama's birth certificate.

>

> -0liver

>

>

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM, <Devacor at aol.com> wrote:

>

>>    he's been talking like this the last 3 albums- this is nothing new.

>> and I don't view these quotes as 'right wing'  -

>> and don't worry when the rfid chips happen, it will seem like a keen,

>> cool

>> idea.

>>

>> Adam

>>

>>  *In a message dated 4/7/2011 10:33:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

>> b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com writes:*

>>

>> *Wow. Now I understand the "right wing Peter Gabriel" part:

>>

>>

>> Jaz: There is no more gold. The money isn't redeemable by gold or silver

>> and we all know it. We've got a much bigger problem here which I've

>> spoken

>> about before. Basically we're gonna have RFID chips, and everything will

>> be

>> on them, so if you want food from a supermarket you'll just swipe your

>> hand

>> because they'll be implanted inside you, and this is the vision some

>> people

>> in the Anglo-American establishment have for the future.

>>

>>

>>

>> It's like Jaz Coleman has been watching a lot of Glenn Beck and Alex

>> Jones....  He's also ranting against unions in the interview. :/

>> *

>>

>>

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